Do you practice Wing Chun? If so, what methods from other arts (e.g. BJJ, Systema, FMA, etc.) have you taken from/incorporated into your Wing Chun? How have you adapted those methods to conform to Wing Chun principles?
Thanks Juany, that's really helpful. Are you comfortable sharing some of the boundary circumstances where you turn off WC and go Kali?I study Kali as well but really maybe only use a couple of things from that. I use an empty hand version of a roof block, sometimes called a cover, if someone is throwing rounds at my head and gunting, though some would argue gunting is in some WC Lineages. Beyond that I turn off WC and go Kali at different points, especially when it comes to weapon use and defense.
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Thanks Juany, that's really helpful. Are you comfortable sharing some of the boundary circumstances where you turn off WC and go Kali?
What is gunting?
Wing chun is my primary art. I find it to be a fairly complete artDo you practice Wing Chun? If so, what methods from other arts (e.g. BJJ, Systema, FMA, etc.) have you taken from/incorporated into your Wing Chun? How have you adapted those methods to conform to Wing Chun principles?
Wing chun is my primary art. I find it to be a fairly complete art
Thanks for sharing that Vajramusti, and I agree that it is a complete art. That said, I think of it as a complete and also always growing. Like a circle that is continuous/has no breaks in the line but expands as it comes in contact with movement that meets its criteria.Wing chun is my primary art. I find it to be a fairly complete art
As a programmer, I see Wing Chun as both a very well designed programming language and a library of example code to train the intuition of the practitioner and cover a set of root applications. In that sense, Wing Chun is always evolving incorporating movements and rules from all arts where certain criteria are met by translating those movements into the "programming language of Wing Chun."
I was a professional software developer for over 35 years, and continue to study online university courses on that and related subjects in retirement.
This metaphor does not fly for me. I worked in dozens of languages or variants thereof on hardware and OS platforms from assembly language and Fortran on IBM 7000 series mainframes and punched cards, through to Java on Android mobile devices.
Each language or OS worked well in its particular niche. None was suited to every situation. Certain platforms and languages were used for historical or cost reasons, or because they were trendy or a manager was more familiar with them, rather than performance or efficiency.
Wing Chun works well in a reasonable subset of possible defence situations. It has at best primitive ideas in response to other situations compared to other martial arts.
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and computer technology are examples of things that undergo constant evolution and are continually being updated/upgraded. Wing Chun's pace of change works in geological time in comparison. Many practitioners are actively hostile to changing the art or hybridisation, some even claim all the good stuff was lost back in the 1850's.
IMO. My first martial arts instructor taught a mix of several kung fu styles, and as a result I feel the pursuit of a single all encompassing art is a fool's errand. Even if such an art did exist, I'd find there were too many other things out there of interest that I would want to investigate to pursue it alone.
As a developer of 12 years and category theory enthusiast I assure you the analogy holds (at least in some schools).
Would also be happy to discuss over a PM in more nerdy detail.
Your opinion. Mine is different.
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