Dakin Burdick: For those of you who have read Glenn saying that even Dakin admits errors in his history, yes, there is a mistake in my on line version, but is relatively minor and will be corrected in my next version. For the most part, I stand behind my history, which is available at: http://www.indiana.edu/~iutkd/info/faqcell.html
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I clicked on the link, and it didn't work. Maybe Dakin took it down, realizing that his article is invalid. I did a quick search and found it here:
http://ryanshroyer.tripod.com/dakin_burdick.html
Let's go through some of it and see if there are any errors:
>Another student of the outlawed arts was Hwang Kee, the
>future founder of Tang Soo Do. Kee "mastered" Tae Kyon and
>Soo Bak Do in 1936 (at the age of 22). He then travelled to
>Northern China where he studied the "T'ang method," and
>from that time until 1945, he worked to combine the two
>styles.
GM HWANG Kee is not the founder of Tang Soo Do; it was GM LEE Won Kuk who first used the term Tang Soo Do. Also, GM Hwang never claimed to have mastered Taekkyon and Soo Bahk Do in 1936 and never studied the "T'ang method" from 1936 until 1945.
>After Korea's liberation in 1945, the native arts of Tae Kyon
>and Subak resurfaced. Among the other styles that surfaced
>at this time were Bang Soo Do, Kong Soo Do ("Way of the Empty
>Hand"), Kwon Bop, Tae Soo Do ("Way of the Foot and Hand"),
>and Tang Soo Do ("Way of the Tang Hand").
After WWII, the native arts of Taekkyon and Subak did not "resurface", unless Dakin means GM Hwang's use of the term Soo Bahk Do in 1960, and GM SONG Duk Ki's "resurfacing" in the early 1960's.
In 1945, there was only Tang Soo Do; Kwon Bup wasn't taught until 1946 by GM CHUN Sang Sup and GM YOON Byung In, Tae Soo Do as a name didn't come out until 1961, and there is no such thing as Bang Soo Do.
>The Japanese occupation of Korea had obviously renewed
>Korean interest in the martial arts, and several kwans ("schools")
>quickly opened in Seoul. The first to open was the Chung Do Kwan
>(a.k.a. Chong Do Kwan, "Gym of the Blue Wave"), which was founded
>by Won Kook Lee in 1945 in Yong Chun, Seoul. The Moo Duk Kwan
>was founded later that year by Hwang Kee, who taught an art he
>eventually named Tang Soo Do ("Way of the Chinese Hand"). The
>third school was the Yun Moo Kwan, founded by Sup Chun Sang
>(a.k.a. Sup Jun Sang). The Chang Moo Kwan was founded by Yun
>Pyung (a.k.a. In Yoon Byung) at a YMCA in 1946, and was followed
>quickly by the Chi Do Kwan, founded by Yon Kue Pyang.
The Chung Do Kwan was founded in 1944, not 1945. The Moo Duk Kwan was founded in 1946, not 1945. The Yun Moo Kwan was founded as a Judo school in 1931, not 1945. GM YOON Byung In (not In Yoon Byung) taught Kwon Bup at the Yun Moo Kwan for six months starting in March 1946 before opening his own club at the YMCA in 1946. The Yun Moo Kwan Kwon Bup Bu program was initially started by GM CHUN Sang Sup (not Sup Chun Sang or Sup Jun Sang). The name Chang Moo Kwan wasn't used until the 1950's by GM LEE Nam Suk, as was the name Jidokwan (sometimes spelled Chi Do Kwan). The second Kwan Jang of the Jidokwan was GM YON Kwai Byong (which I guess is close to Yon Kue Pyang).
>After the war, three more kwans appeared. In 1953-1954,
>Gae Byang Yun founded the Ji Do Kwan (a.k.a. Jee Do Kwan),
>Byung Chik Ro founded the Song Moo Kwan (a.k.a. Sang Moo
>Kwan), and Hong Hi Choi founded the Oh Do Kwan ("Gym of
>My Way") with the help of Tae Hi Nam.
The Jidokwan is the same kwan as the Chidokwan and Yun Moo Kwan; "Gae Byang Yun" is the same person as "Yon Kue Pyang" as quoted by Dakin. GM RO Byung Jick founded the Song Moo Kwan in 1947 in Kae Song; as for General Choi "founding" the Oh Do Kwan, I guess you can say that, given that he was the military general who authorized the gym to be started, but GM NAM Tae Hi was the kwan jang who did the actual training. And according to the interview done by Earl Weiss, GM Nam stated that Oh Do Kwan means Our Way, not My Way, because the Oh Do Kwan was composed of different kwan members and he wanted everyone to fit in.
I think that is enough for now.
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I clicked on the link, and it didn't work. Maybe Dakin took it down, realizing that his article is invalid. I did a quick search and found it here:
http://ryanshroyer.tripod.com/dakin_burdick.html
Let's go through some of it and see if there are any errors:
>Another student of the outlawed arts was Hwang Kee, the
>future founder of Tang Soo Do. Kee "mastered" Tae Kyon and
>Soo Bak Do in 1936 (at the age of 22). He then travelled to
>Northern China where he studied the "T'ang method," and
>from that time until 1945, he worked to combine the two
>styles.
GM HWANG Kee is not the founder of Tang Soo Do; it was GM LEE Won Kuk who first used the term Tang Soo Do. Also, GM Hwang never claimed to have mastered Taekkyon and Soo Bahk Do in 1936 and never studied the "T'ang method" from 1936 until 1945.
>After Korea's liberation in 1945, the native arts of Tae Kyon
>and Subak resurfaced. Among the other styles that surfaced
>at this time were Bang Soo Do, Kong Soo Do ("Way of the Empty
>Hand"), Kwon Bop, Tae Soo Do ("Way of the Foot and Hand"),
>and Tang Soo Do ("Way of the Tang Hand").
After WWII, the native arts of Taekkyon and Subak did not "resurface", unless Dakin means GM Hwang's use of the term Soo Bahk Do in 1960, and GM SONG Duk Ki's "resurfacing" in the early 1960's.
In 1945, there was only Tang Soo Do; Kwon Bup wasn't taught until 1946 by GM CHUN Sang Sup and GM YOON Byung In, Tae Soo Do as a name didn't come out until 1961, and there is no such thing as Bang Soo Do.
>The Japanese occupation of Korea had obviously renewed
>Korean interest in the martial arts, and several kwans ("schools")
>quickly opened in Seoul. The first to open was the Chung Do Kwan
>(a.k.a. Chong Do Kwan, "Gym of the Blue Wave"), which was founded
>by Won Kook Lee in 1945 in Yong Chun, Seoul. The Moo Duk Kwan
>was founded later that year by Hwang Kee, who taught an art he
>eventually named Tang Soo Do ("Way of the Chinese Hand"). The
>third school was the Yun Moo Kwan, founded by Sup Chun Sang
>(a.k.a. Sup Jun Sang). The Chang Moo Kwan was founded by Yun
>Pyung (a.k.a. In Yoon Byung) at a YMCA in 1946, and was followed
>quickly by the Chi Do Kwan, founded by Yon Kue Pyang.
The Chung Do Kwan was founded in 1944, not 1945. The Moo Duk Kwan was founded in 1946, not 1945. The Yun Moo Kwan was founded as a Judo school in 1931, not 1945. GM YOON Byung In (not In Yoon Byung) taught Kwon Bup at the Yun Moo Kwan for six months starting in March 1946 before opening his own club at the YMCA in 1946. The Yun Moo Kwan Kwon Bup Bu program was initially started by GM CHUN Sang Sup (not Sup Chun Sang or Sup Jun Sang). The name Chang Moo Kwan wasn't used until the 1950's by GM LEE Nam Suk, as was the name Jidokwan (sometimes spelled Chi Do Kwan). The second Kwan Jang of the Jidokwan was GM YON Kwai Byong (which I guess is close to Yon Kue Pyang).
>After the war, three more kwans appeared. In 1953-1954,
>Gae Byang Yun founded the Ji Do Kwan (a.k.a. Jee Do Kwan),
>Byung Chik Ro founded the Song Moo Kwan (a.k.a. Sang Moo
>Kwan), and Hong Hi Choi founded the Oh Do Kwan ("Gym of
>My Way") with the help of Tae Hi Nam.
The Jidokwan is the same kwan as the Chidokwan and Yun Moo Kwan; "Gae Byang Yun" is the same person as "Yon Kue Pyang" as quoted by Dakin. GM RO Byung Jick founded the Song Moo Kwan in 1947 in Kae Song; as for General Choi "founding" the Oh Do Kwan, I guess you can say that, given that he was the military general who authorized the gym to be started, but GM NAM Tae Hi was the kwan jang who did the actual training. And according to the interview done by Earl Weiss, GM Nam stated that Oh Do Kwan means Our Way, not My Way, because the Oh Do Kwan was composed of different kwan members and he wanted everyone to fit in.
I think that is enough for now.