Sparring gear - mouthpieces

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All! I have trouble using regular mouthpieces when sparring. Even the smaller, softer ones properly molded to my teeth are still too big and make me gag. My dentist says I have a "unique" anatomy (note to all - NEVER a good thing to hear from your dentist): my mouth is too small for a grownup and the mouth cavity narrows too steeply toward the back. This always causes issues when taking dental x-rays.

So, any advice you could give me as to what mouthpieces I could use that would still protect my teeth when sparring but wouldn't cause me to feel like throwing up.
 

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im sure you are aware that you can trim the length and that they have youth sizes. have you tried these options and what was the result?
 

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If your mouth is very small/narrow, have you tried using a youth-size mouth guard?
 
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im sure you are aware that you can trim the length and that they have youth sizes. have you tried these options and what was the result?
That's what we are considering. I wanted to check whether maybe there was some magical option for undersized adults. :)
 

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If you are sure that the gag reflex from the bigger mouth guards is not psychological then I would definitely try a child's mouth guard instead.
 

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Also, are you double boiling?

We boil then fit....then we cut the ends off where they are flush with your last molar then boil and fit again. Make sure you are sucking in thru your teeth as you fit both times.

When it fits properly the mouthpiece should stay on your teeth even while talking and you should have to use you fingers or tongue remove it.
 

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Perhaps a stupid question... did you ask your dentist what he/she recommends?

I have issues with boil and bite mouth guards too. Theyre not long enough to protect my back molar. I didnt think much of it until I got a hook kick in the jaw a few months ago. When I got hit, I felt my back teeth grind together. Not a good feeling. Had she not pulled her kick, it wouldve been a lot worse.

My dentist custom fitted me for a mouth guard. It cost $100. Not outrageous, but not cheap either. After wearing it the first time, Ill never go back to a boil and bite one. It fits like a vacuum. I literally have to pull it off (in a good way). I can open my mouth and breathe without it going anywhere. And it covers all my teeth.
 

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I have issues with boil and bite mouth guards too. Theyre not long enough to protect my back molar. I didnt think much of it until I got a hook kick in the jaw a few months ago.
The problem here is you not blocking lol.


My dentist custom fitted me for a mouth guard. It cost $100. Not outrageous, but not cheap either
Some times this is the only option. It would be my first choice if I had the cash to spend that much on a mouth piece but would be acceptable in the event that there was no other alternative.
 
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Also, are you double boiling?

We boil then fit....then we cut the ends off where they are flush with your last molar then boil and fit again. Make sure you are sucking in thru your teeth as you fit both times.

When it fits properly the mouthpiece should stay on your teeth even while talking and you should have to use you fingers or tongue remove it.
I did. Double-boil, then fit, trimmed off the tips - the works. But it still feels like... there is too much of it.
 
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Perhaps a stupid question... did you ask your dentist what he/she recommends?

I have issues with boil and bite mouth guards too. Theyre not long enough to protect my back molar. I didnt think much of it until I got a hook kick in the jaw a few months ago. When I got hit, I felt my back teeth grind together. Not a good feeling. Had she not pulled her kick, it wouldve been a lot worse.

My dentist custom fitted me for a mouth guard. It cost $100. Not outrageous, but not cheap either. After wearing it the first time, Ill never go back to a boil and bite one. It fits like a vacuum. I literally have to pull it off (in a good way). I can open my mouth and breathe without it going anywhere. And it covers all my teeth.
Hmmm... I didn't even know you could do that. I'll be at my dentist's just this coming Wednesday to get my new tooth finally - I'll ask him.

It's one of those cases, where services offered by American healthcare providers are so drastically different and more extensive than what I grew up with, I am still learning about everything you can ask them. :)
 

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The problem here is you not blocking lol.


Some times this is the only option. It would be my first choice if I had the cash to spend that much on a mouth piece but would be acceptable in the event that there was no other alternative.
I did block. With my head :)

And, theres not much alternative. My dentist rattled off several good over the counter names. But if the shock doctor ones not long enough, its going to be hard to find one that is. I figured if it takes me buying 3 or 4 different ones to get the right fit (at $30 a piece), $100 is probably cheaper. And Im done with it.

The manufacturer offers cheaper and more expensive ones, but I the one I got struck the right balance. It was upper-middle end. His nephew is an amateur MMA fighter, and he got one a step or two above what I got.

I look at the justification of the cost 2 ways - 1. A Shock Doctor or the like costs about $35, and a replacement one from my dentist will probably run about $50* and 2. $100 is a lot cheaper than potentially needing dental work.

*I think the biggest cost of the thing is the dentist taking time out to have me bite the tray, and the manufacturer making the mold from it. They sent me the mold of my teeth. I think when its replacement time I send the mold to them and they make a new mouthpiece. And so long as I dont lose the mouthpiece, Im pretty sure itll last several years. It seems very durable.

Edit: Just to add...
I wasnt thrilled about spending $100 on a mouthpiece. I mean, come on... its a mouthpiece. Once I tried it on, the price didnt bother me at all. It just feels right. Kind of hard to explain. It was one of those times that I thought why didnt I do this sooner? Id absolutely hate to wear a regular one again if I had to; its that comfortable. But yeah, $100 aint cheap.
 
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Hmmm... I didn't even know you could do that. I'll be at my dentist's just this coming Wednesday to get my new tooth finally - I'll ask him.

It's one of those cases, where services offered by American healthcare providers are so drastically different and more extensive than what I grew up with, I am still learning about everything you can ask them. :)
I guess it wasnt a stupid question. I bought the $100 dollar version. Theres cheaper ones and more expensive ones. Im not sure how much cheaper, but I think the manufacturer my dentist uses starts around $70. It all depends on how much protection you need.

Heres a link to the manufacturer I used. Theres no prices, and the dentist may charge a bit more or less for their time. The $100 I paid was for everything. I bought the heavy.

http://glidewelldental.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/patient-playsafe-brochure.pdf
 

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I did. Double-boil, then fit, trimmed off the tips - the works. But it still feels like... there is too much of it.
I am at this stage, more or less. But I think from now we just get used to that, over time. If no better option... I dont feel good when I put it in my mouth, but as soon as the sparring starts I forget about this issue.
 
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I am at this stage, more or less. But I think from now we just get used to that, over time. If no better option... I dont feel good when I put it in my mouth, but as soon as the sparring starts I forget about this issue.
I suppose I could also use it as a deterrent - if my opponents know if I am about to throw up because of my mouthpiece at any moment, they won't be able to get close to me. :)
 

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I suppose I could also use it as a deterrent - if my opponents know if I am about to throw up because of my mouthpiece at any moment, they won't be able to get close to me. :)

Feint the vomit...then the old 1-2 or however you like to attack....genius!
 
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