... Kicking the guy on the ground is not the way aikidoka would go. ...he was throwing a few punches that would be out of place in many aikido schools.
I doubt there is any Aikido in these videos. Maybe some jujutsu especially in the first two videos. Kicking the guy on the ground is not the way aikidoka would go. A standing arm pin would effectively hold him until he cools ... no need for kicks. Number two is a good illustration of redirecting which is an aikido principle but once again he was throwing a few punches that would be out of place in many aikido schools. Number three was more a preemptive strike and the guy way have hit his head on the ground. Either way he was dazed and the security guy was well controlled as he didn't hit once the guy was down. He removed the weapon and made sure the guy was ok.
Sorry to say, I didn't see a lot of aikido, except possibly number two.
This is very true but the atemi in aikido is not the wild punch as seen in the video. You are right that not all schools teach atemi but it is also true that of those that do, many don't teach atemi the way it was used in Ueshiba's time. The atemi in aikido is a strategic strike, not an opportunistic one.Atemi is a part of Aikido, and was clearly taught by Ueshiba, whether a specific school teaches it or not.
Apart from perhaps a little jujutsu in the second one there is nothing that looks like aikido. The third video has just one punch. As Chris asked, why do you think it is aikido? The fact that some people cross train is not evidence. I would suggest that many more people cross train BJJ than aikido.Probably those three men are trained in aikido and other martial arts. Currently, most people have some knowledge of diverse martial arts.
True to some extent. Certainly it can be a strike like a preemptive back fist to the head to elicit a response to control an arm but it may also be a distraction as a strike after you have a hold to take the person's mind from resisting what you are about to do. In reality, if that first strike is successful it may be all over but in reality from an aikido perspective this back fist is really a feint, so I would actually slow it down a fraction to allow the person time to raise his arm. The third type of strike is at the end, as a finishing technique, if that is where you need to go.If atemi is taught, it's more likely to be taught to elicit a reaction than it is to actually strike.
Probably those three men are trained in aikido and other martial arts. Currently, most people have some knowledge of diverse martial arts.
Hmm, let's try again… why do you think that anyone in those clips are trained in Aikido, or, indeed, any martial art at all? Is it just that you expect most people, and anyone who gets involved in a fight, has some training (which is far from the reality), or that you expect every martial artist to have some training in all, or at least, many systems? What do you understand Aikido to actually be, what are the hallmarks you see here that indicate any connection to Aikido, other than a (honestly) rather baseless assumption that, well, they might have done some at some point?
I'm really just trying to understand what you see here, and where you're coming from. As there really isn't anything close to Aikido seen here, knowing why you thought they might show some can help us put you in the right direction for future experiences.
Because people were redirecting force and throwing guys around.
Of course just because akido do that does not give them a monopoly on it.
Otherwise plenty of martial arts has that kind of redirecting force type throw.