This was a while ago when this head slamming into the concrete wall happened. I really can't remember exactly how many times he did it, even right after it happened as it really rocked my head and made things very cloudy right afterward. It may have been 2 consecutive times, but it was definitely him yanking my head towards him and then flinging it back into the concrete....while we were both swimming for the MT plum. It also probably contributed to my very serious concussion later, that kept me from training for over a month + 3 months more of not sparring.
So, he put your head into it about two times. You got a serious concussion and couldnt train for 3 months further. So you would agree with my original statement that bouncing someones head off a solid surface is effective?
And would you also consider that you dont need to be trained in the arm of grabbing someones head and ramming it into something?
So you want me to fight against someone who may have a knife with only my MMA H2H yet having my own knife on my side and a concealed 9mm under my shirt? This is crazy.
I want you to be aware that you may not have a choice in the matter. But thats the difference between a fight and an assault.
Ok, but you're the guy who implied that I needed some of your fancy SD training otherwise an experienced MMA fighter won't have a chance in the street nor battlefield. I'm just arguing what you said.
I did no such thing. Ive been trying to say that technical training isnt good for much. I can quote myself saying it if need be.
No matter how much training you have, it may not do you any good. And if thats implying you need fancy SD moves, then that isnt the implication i intended. I intended that the aggressor has the advantage, no matter how good you are.
What's the point of this comment when it applies to any type of training?
Well this Brazilian gorilla in question that I was sparring in Boxing class last week, I've also sparred with in BJJ class before. So more than likely, yes, because I can submit him on the ground about once every 30 seconds if I really wanted to embarrass him. I don't though, because I'm not a penis... and do give him a chance as he's only a White belt in BJJ. While standing up, for four rounds,....I couldn't KO him. I was busting him up & hurting him and certainly won on points, but he was no beginner in Boxing. If it were a fight to the death, I would definitely take it to the ground and not chance standing with him.
And in a real fight, are you going to ensure hes unarmed, before you take him to the ground? If so, how?
I did say real fight, after all.
Furthermore, in a real fight, how would you have known he was a boxer?
Being fit is good, but SOME of these active military guys who just joined our MMA gyms are also panting and wheezing during the warmup exercises just like most other noobs too sometimes. But even with being in excellent shape, it doesn't mean that they can fight. They get beat just like any other noobs. It's funny because a lot of these ACTIVE military guys, especially those in the Marines, special forces, Rangers, etc...usually tries to hide their military affiliations until at least a year or so later of training. Why? Because there's so much public misconceptions about how badass they're supposed to be, that they feel somehow that they must live up to such expectations....but deep down inside, they know that they can't fight much better than the average bar brawler. Or that if they do make known that they're a Marine, it would put targets on their backs and attract people who wants a chance to beat on Marines.
Now the Marines who are trained and/or experience MMA fighters, they have nothing to hide.
And we also agree on that.
Sorry, I don't mean to sound like I'm always arguing against you. A lot of times, I do agree with you and just adding on to it.
I get that impression. I know that it can be difficult to have this kind of discussion without cutting back and forth.
The reason that I think sparring hard for KO's is a decisive factor is because it routinely tests what you're made of. The fear, nervousness, exhaustion, pain, KO's, etc.... all contribute to becoming more proficient at fighting/SD. We don't do it all the time, but quite frequently. Without a doubt, it was terrifying the very first time and many times after that for many months. After many years of this, I can certainly say that it does indeed build, REAL confidence. I'm a lot more relaxed now going into such sparring matches and ring/cage fights. There's still nerves and fear, especially going against Pro's whom I know will whoop me. I don't even fight in the ring that much, just lots of sparring and a good amount of full sparring for KO's. I really am, someone who's more geared towards preparing for the streets....which is why I have guns & knives in my EDC bag.
Weapons are indeed an advantage, but you dont need to be trained to stab someone.
And the 'context' of my entire point, is that the other guy does not need to be trained in order to successfully stab you. And your technique and skill and experience may prove useless if youre busy bleeding out and in pain because you may not have even seen the weapon until it was stuck in you, let alone known you were under attack.
Which comes back to my original point: Quality of Training > Technique, and Sports and Combatives are only as good as the people using them. And even excellent users shouldnt think that they cant be beaten by someone whos never been to a gym in their lives.