Originally posted by jbkenpo
I disagree, depending on how close you get your sparring to a stage of "aliveness" it can emulate a "fighting" environment. That's like saying there is no point in having a person throw a punch at you during practice because its not a "real" punch so there's no point in directly comparing the two very odd..
The thing is, if you're sparring against people it's usully going to be people you know, your friends, so you're not usually going to throw attacks with the intention of doing vast amounts of damage. This is going to alter the whole way you move, and coupled with the lack of adrenalyn (in a normal class session, rather than a competition or whatever) and a lack of urgency that comes from being in no real danger, the two just become very different entities.
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can compare them yes, but other that A versus B I think the similarities are that few that there's little to be gained from it, as I said before.
This doesn't mean that sparring isn't good practice for the street, of course it is, but that's different from saying 'if I can't get technique X off in sparring how can I hope to in the street' which was what the post was about.
If you practice golf at a driving range, and you can't hit out of it with a 5 iron, it's pretty fair to say you won't be able to hit that well with a 5 iron on the fairway either, because the swing is pretty much identical. I just don't think you can draw a similar parallel between using sparring as practice for a street fight.
Maybe that's clearer...ugh, i can't believe I used a golf analogy. I'm turning into my father
I agree with the last part of this comment, but assuming a person that is "drunk" won't clean your clock is not smart.
I never said they couldn't, I said that the movements of a drunk are more exaggerated and committed, which makes it easier to pull off a technique. The reason for this is that when people attack in technique practice they usually use slower and exaggerated moves, not unlike that of a drunk, and so it's what most people are used to.
But there are people who are saying "they actually have DONE..." not they think so that's who we are asking...but I know where your coming and agree with much of your position.
Well whenever a 'have you ever pulled off your kenpo in the street?' style thread (I've started them myself in the past) gets going the general consensus is that people coped, but didn't get a full technique off. I've only read 2 or 3 replies where people said 'yes, he did this and so i used so and so technique', I think the one that comes to mind was a guy in a mental ward who used raining lance against a screwdriver, can't think of any others.
Ian.