jasonbrinn
Purple Belt
I have my opinion but I want to know yours. Please give the reasons why you feel the way you do as well. Thank you in advance for the responses.
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I have my opinion but I want to know yours. Please give the reasons why you feel the way you do as well. Thank you in advance for the responses.
One thing: Why the hell would a Passive and Unorganised Person be trying to Attack You?It depends. A person who has no training, and is passive and unorganized by nature, is screwed. A person who is just the opposite could be a different story.
To me, the biggest factor in carrying pepper spray, isn't practical. That is - to get sprayed in the face with said pepper spray so you know what the heck you're dealing with. (and please don't give me the "you don't have to get shot to know guns are good".)
Pepper spray doesn't usually work the way a person hoped it might work - if it works at all. If a person can get to it in time, which I doubt, and that is less likely to happen the longer it's carried with never being deployed, conditions need to be perfect, which they never are. (wind, the grip and direction of the canister grabbed in a time of severe stress, and the determination of the aggressor.) So, in the hands of a person who has no combat skills, I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
One thing: Why the hell would a Passive and Unorganised Person be trying to Attack You?
I think it has its place. It is effective on alot of people but not all so you have to understand that before you ever use it and already have a plan B ready when it does not work. I have used its it many times and I would say its effective 80% of the time Ive used it. I dont like it because it makes a mess and then you have to hear the person cry for the next 2 hours so I try not to use it. It really has no effect on my it burns and makes my eyes water but I can still fully function with it. Ive always found it hurt more later in the shower then when Im actually sprayed.
Yeah I had a Lt that would put in on crackers and eat it. All he would say was "It stings a little coming out" :fart:One of our officers is damn near immune to the stuff, in FLETC they turned her head red after repeatedly spraying her and basically it made her eyes water a bit and gave her a runny nose.
Hello Jason,
IMO, I think that it has its pros and its cons.
The pros:
Its a small, compact weapon.
It can pretty much be carried anywhere, of course with the exception of certain areas, ie: airports.
It has a good effect on the person its used against.
It can be deployed from a distance.
The cons:
Its possible that it may not have the desired effect on every single person.
Unless you already have it in your hand, if you have to fumble thru a purse or pocket to get it, it may be too late to deploy.
If its windy, it may not be the best tool to use.
If the person using it, isn't used to the effects, and its very possible that they too can be exposed to it, it will possibly hinder their escape as well.
Thats all that comes to mind at the moment.
If your going to us it keep it accessible and be ready to take a hit from it yourself. Getting sprayed is no fun and we as LEOs and COs do it so we can learn you can fight through it.
+1 on the above.
I will add that I've used O.C. numerous times, more than I can remember. I've had it drop a full grown man to his kness where he cried like a baby. This man was actively engaged in a violent fight. I've also had a EDP (emotionally disturbed person) take a full hit to the eyes where he wiped it out of his eyes, grinned and growled, "Come in here and get me". And of course...I was the guy who had to go in there and 'get him'.
So it 'can' worked wonderfully fantastic. It can also not work at all. And sometimes it will work, but not immediately. I would suggest NOT using 10% O.C. This is a marketing gimmick (straight from the mouth of the guy that invented the modern O.C. spray). 10% is in a water base. Oil and water don't mix so actually the pepper can be prevented from immediately getting into the pores and membranes. 5% or 5.5% is usually in a carrier that is non-flammable but also disapates very quickly, which leave ALL the pepper on the face/membranes. It works better.
Keep in mind that you need to spray and MOVE!!!! Don't spray and stand there marveling at how well you painted him or waiting to see if it worked. It isn't magic. Even if it works well, they can still possibly continue the attack. Spray and move in a direction that is out of their path if at all possible.