El Oso de Dios!
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- Mar 5, 2005
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Comparing the WC / Bruce Lee one-inch punch with the Taiji / Xingyi version; The WC version (although combat viable) is less "internal", it is weaker, and is mechanically lacking. Bruce didn't have the training for this comparison, had he lived longer that may have been different.
Hmm, didn't I say as much? Albeit in a less wordy, more Yoda-like fashion:
Hmm.....maybe if Bruce Lee had a root....:lol:
(more to come...)
Then, of course, there's this:
Western Boxing, of course. Haven't you noticed how the standard Wing Chun stance looks suspiciously like the London Prize Ring rules Boxing stance?
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Peace favor your sword,
Still not convinced that WC isn't a 19th century Chinese answer to western boxing, but that's another thread <ducking> :lol:
More to the point, I'm not so certain that Bruce Lee's 1 inch punch is WC's one inch punch, or that modern JKD's one inch punch is Bruce Lee's 1 inch punch....never mind the internal stuff, which I'll touch on briefly.....
While Bruce Lee's structure is sound, it's not the same-as others have pointed out-as the "internal" versions.
here's the same, from another angle-please ignore the advert :lfao:
We can see from these vids that 1 inch is actually more like 3-6 inches, and, that while the punch starts in the foot, it can't help but involve the wrist, elbow and shoulder
It's lacking "root" in that it has "hip," rather than pelvis and the knees are-in my opinion-not quite right-they're off-balance.
Here's Rick Tucci, one of the more reasonable JKD flavor go-to guys, giving a good explanation and demonstration of the JKD "one-inch punch":
And here's Richard Bustillo giving a good bio-mechanical breakdown:
I should now point out how completely "un-rooted" each person who received the punches in these vids was-it doesn't really take a "great deal of power" to knock people standing the way they were.
Anyway, it might have been interesting to see Bruce deliver this punch from a horse-stance, but if he ever did, it isn't on film....
So, there's a one inch punch in western boxing (which is what Bruce's looks like to me)
And there's one in WC (which isn't the same as Bruce's, and sort of is, but notice how they don't show Leung Ting's feet):
Of course, what you've really pointed out, Kirk, is that human bio-mechanical structure is, in fact, well....human bio-mechanical structure, and that's how they all work.....there's a "one inch punch" in sanchin kata which deals more with the pelvis, and a "one inch punch" in western boxing, and internal "one inch punches" in hsing yi, tai chi and pakua, that are more about the pelvis as well, and more balanced structure in the knees (and they'll keep their heels down, I think , unlike most WC and JKD people), but they all are about developing and demonstrating short-distance striking power. (Though I could not, unfortunately, find good video examples of each of them...Okinawan/Japanese, Western, and Chinese internal-maybe somebody else?)
In the end, it's kinda like asking "who invented the arm bar?"
They all did. :lol:
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