Originally posted by paihequan
With respect, no I don't remember you. Sorry
Oh now that hurts.:vu:
You mean you donÂ’t remember me from E-Budo?
I was the one that brought up how your “old” website was an exact rip off of Pat McCarthy’s. You had changed a few words around so it would fit your style you were teaching.
After which Pat asked you to stop using his Copyrighted material on your website…..back in the day when you claimed you were a white crane kung fu master, that was after you were a “Soke”, but had actually never really studied white crane kung fu.
I invite anyone to email Patrick McCarthy and get the low down on Ron a.k.a. Paihequan :anic:
Just in case you forgot what your's said:
I have heard "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" but come on Ron.........this is a bit over the top isn't it.
From GoninanÂ’s Site:
To introduce & firmly establish Butoryu Paihequan © as a completely systematized & modern interpretation of Okinawan / Fujian defensive Crane-Fist throughout the world .
From McCarthyÂ’s Site:
To introduce & firmly establish Koryu Uchinadi® as a completely systematized & modern interpretation of Okinawan-Fujian defensive martial arts culture throughout the world
and that was just the first paragraph of the first page!
You than posted a bunch of smiley faces and blundered at any sort of rhyme or reason as to why you copied his website.
I then asked you:
Ok Ron, enough horse sxxt.
Let me ask you point blankly why your website in the place I have mentioned was the same as McCarthy’s? No “smiley faces” or excuses just a regular answer for once would be nice.
Are you man enough to admit you purposely copied McCarthy's website?
Patrick McCarthyÂ’s reply to your intellectual property theft was:
Dear Robert,
I concur with your comments and admire your perseverance, but I honestly doubt that such efforts, as well intended as they may be, will ever do much. This fellow's opinion of himself is medically deluded/challenged.
In the nearly 10 years since I first came into contact with him, his questionable character, unscrupulous actions and unsavory reputation, have never once stopped him from shoveling the hogwash. He's always portrayed himself as an *expert* in virtually every martial art that's come in and out of vogue, without ever spending the obligatory years in training/study. What's more, is the preposterous ranks and titles he advertises himself as elsewhere; Soke, Hanshi, Kyoshi, Sifu, and Shinshi, but would have E-Budo folk think it's just Ron! The saddest part of all of this is the naive learners in his rural district, and like-minded cyber geeks, he's able to mislead.
He continually applied to become part of our research group but no one wanted him, least of all me. I even had members threaten to pull out if he was allowed to come on board. That was just after the time he apologized for a two year unwarranted attack on me, along side cohorts Matt Henderson and convicted felon, and phony Navy Seal, Mike Davis (moderator of budogeeks).
Judging by his own claims I am sure that Mr. Gonads is serious about budo and is as infatuated with it as are the rest of us. However, that he cannot see the wrong-ness of his dishonest ways will probably remain the one pillar he'll never surmount because such effort would require genuine integrity. Ron may have big Gonads, but his moral fiber and ethical underpinnings are thin and non-existent! Aren't they more important when compared to how many titles one can appropriate?
Robert, I really think Mike Davis' group (budogeeks) is where his kind of sophism belongs.
PM
Because Ron Goninan is Bad Budo. He has lied about his training, faked his dan rank(s), “Trolled”, plagiarized on here, people like him should be and will be exposed. His hypocritical comments are an insult to anyone that trains with an ounce of sincerity. To merely “ignore” him as you suggest is to condone his despicable actions and indirectly helps propagate his lies.
Also from McCarthyÂ’s post on how you claimed to be a private non-profit dojo.
Parts of this are from your old website:
(your comment on a question asked about your dojo)
1/. No I am located in Australia in a small rural town known as Wellington. I do not have a "public" school as such preferring to teach a small group of selected people. I do not teach on a commercial basis.
(website)
Ron Goninan, founder of the KOBGK Paihequan International set up a well-equipped training hall, called the Gohokan (Treasure House), and commenced to admit students publicly into its teachings, and turned teaching martial arts into a career.
Presented for your educational and non-profit enjoyment:
MEMBERSHIP:
The KOBGK Paihequan International welcomes new members who are serious about Crane-Fist studies, regardless of age, race, sex, religion or martial arts background. There are however, certain requirements for membership, the most important being the belief in and desire that the essence of Crane-Fist be practised and passed on in the correct manner. Please see our "Membership" section for further information
YEARLY MEMBERSHIP FEES (AUSTRALIA):
v Zongbu Yearly Student & Dan Grade Membership Fees: $25.00 1st Year.
(includes Membership Certificate,
v Membership Renewal: $20.00 Every Year
v Gohokan Research Society Membership Fee: $50.00 Per Year.
(Includes Access to Research Items)
AUSTRALIAN BRANCH SCHOOL FEES:
Branch School Charter Membership: $150.00 Per Year
Branch Dojo Student Membership: $5.00 Per Student
YEARLY MEMBERSHIP FEES (ENGLAND):
Zongbu Yearly Student & Dan Grade Membership Fees: £50.00 1st Year
Membership Renewal: £30.00 Every Year
Grading assessment by video: £20.00
Includes certificate (only if pass) together with assessment notes & advise for future development.
YEARLY MEMBERSHIP FEES (AMERICA):
Zongbu Yearly Student & Dan Grade Membership Fees: $50.00 1st Year (USD) (includes Membership Certificate, Level 1 Video)
Membership Renewal: $30.00 Every Year (USD)
Grading assessment by video: $20.00 (USD)
Includes certificate (only if pass) together with assessment notes & advise for future development.
Members may purchase the Crane-Fist Instructional Videos and train at home. You may subsequently video-test for rank promotions.
"WINGS OF TRADITION" SYLLABUS CD-ROM
Don't forget that the "Wings of Tradition" CD-Rom is now available from Zongbu. The CD-Rom covers the entire KOBGK Paihequan International Syllabus in-depth and is only available to current members of the KOBGK Paihequan International. Cost of the CD-ROM is $35.00 including postage and handling.
Does that refresh your memory Ron?
