its not the idea that they use one strike and stop, but more that many times a specific strike is tt as an absolute and that it WILL do such and such. That mentality that one strike will stop an oponent is a set up for a bad day. Kinda like fighting multiple opponents being taught as realistic and then striking from one to the other. The people teaching this have never been in that situation. It doesn't go like that as a rule. OR :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: empty hand defense against a knife. .......odds anorexic at best Usually this is further "justified " by a statement like..."oh, you will get cut but you give that up to get to this" ever seen a knife cut from a fight...?????you get laid open like a book. :soapbox: ok. I'll stop...I could go on but hey...it's late