Mitose/Chow documents to be released

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You were saying something to the effect that you can nnot improve on nature, that's one example. Horse vs. Car another example.

From medicinal to sport science we as a people know so much more about the body then ever before. Alt of people have a tendancy to glorify Herbology, and other traditional medicines-please remember that the human has about 40 years when we relied exclusively on folklore medicines.
As a martial artist I have the means and access to more knowledge about the arts and how to work the body. In the last 50 years the martial arts have changed profoundly, to ignore that is a dogmatic approach to say the least
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Kai,

That is very true, but if one of us from the other side of the view(Kosho)
were to say what you did, we would then be told that Hanshi Bruce is not teaching what Mitose taught.

Alas, the same scenario, Hanshi goes to the next level and then he is not teaching the same, he teaches the same, and he is dogmatic.

Both are for consideration, in each and every Martial Art.

Take EPAK for example, if you would.

What in the name Kai, means Kajukenbo, or Kajukenpo, or Kaju Kenpo???.

I looking at that would look at the play on words, IE. Karate, Jujutsu + Kenpo or we can even go one step further, continue to speculate, and say you made that all up. Are you worse for it???

Mitose for better or worse was the start, for the western world.
Kaji is a great art, it has also evolved out of its self.

Mitose warned Hanshi 'beware of the nit picker', now that, has not evolved.

Lets see some Documentation from the other side of the debate!
We then can become also the nit picker.

I don't want to be the only one who has not requested documentation, then when given it, will be able to continue this debate on the same level to pick the story apart.

I would also like to evolve. Without your side contributing, what this side has, it is really pretty much, pointless to continue.

Regards, Gary

PS. I have asked many questions, received no answers????
 

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Gab

i don't really understand where the questions are, you have a tendency to try to sound like afortune cookie
Did i make up the name KaJuKenpo no, AlGene Carulia did.
Documentation that Kenpo doe'snt go back to japan, so you want documentation that something is not there?
 

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Ok Kai,

Do you see the same thing I do in your post?
In your reply to your martial art?

Picky, picky.

Fortune cookie how nice. Yummy.

Regards, Gary
 

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BlackCatBonz said:
i think its funny how one man has created so much controversy and how many people care.

shawn
Actually I read it out of curiousity, but it has NO impact on me.
Saint
Criminal
Master
NOt...

I don't care.
It's sort of like a soap opera, not sure who to root for...and I could take it or leave it.
HOWEVER: The whole prospect of being able to verrify certain certificates....that's Interesting.

Your Brother
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Brother John, in respect's to your thoughts, I will be glad when it is finalized.
Wait, that is not the right word.

For the rest.

It is coming and so is Christmas. Just like the sun it will come up, (according to my sources).

But I want it now!
I will give it to you when I am good and ready!
But I want it now!!!
Go to your room!!!!! Child goes to room crying...

I have said it several times, the people who had to look for it, and feel they found it, are not going to give it up, just because, you want it now!

Lots of money, time, and frustration went into the time and place we are at.
Lets throw in ridicule, trying to walk into the eye of a hurricane, comes to mind. Will we ever get there?

We will see.

Tales will be told about this man for a lot longer than he or Hanshi ever thought it would go. Hanshi' name also.

A deal is a deal.

How does it taste, Kai, what angle would you call that?

My observation anyhow.

Regards, Gary
 

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Wow. confused and dazedThe name of the thread is "documents to be released". Put up or shut up, now go to your corner and think about it
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Brother John said:
Actually I read it out of curiousity, but it has NO impact on me.
Saint
Criminal
Master
NOt...

I don't care.
It's sort of like a soap opera, not sure who to root for...and I could take it or leave it.
HOWEVER: The whole prospect of being able to verrify certain certificates....that's Interesting.

Your Brother
John


Hi Brother John,

Are you well travled, worthy and qualified, true blue and all that???

Yes, to all the above, and then some.

Interesting, is a very interesting word, agenda, comes to mind.

Hanshi likes to use the word, 'Logical'...

I am in the office of logistics, run by a logician.

Does that make any sense? NOT.

I will not spend much more time on this subject, or like threads for awhile.

To many other things to do.

But I would like to talk to you. Write etc, you know what I mean???

Regards, Gary
 

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Todd,

You know where they are so, go there.

Kelly said to tell you to GO to your sand box, Dan Jordan, and play there.

Please, take it up with Kelly.

Regards, Gary
 

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Actually my name is'nt Don Jordan, but thanks anyway

(Todd)
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Again if you don't want the controversy from these discussions, then don't start the thread!
 

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Kai,

Actually I was not calling you by that name. I read it now and it is confusing.

Oh well, one more confused post after another, no biggie.

I did not start this thread, but I do understand.

Regards, Gary
 
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Again if you don't want the controversy from these discussions, then don't start the thread!

Todd, I started the thread from what I learned from Dr. Ted Sumner on the San Jose Kenpo forum, not Gary. I know what you mean though so perhaps we can re-phrase your reply to Gary. "Again if you don't want the controversy from these discussions, then don't REPLY to the thread." There, that's better, lol.
 

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Hi all - I know this is an old thread, but does anyone happen to still have links or can point me in a dorection to the documents referenced here early on in the convo?

Thank you in advance!
 
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