Reading the Beginners Mind post got me thinking about the definition of a beginner and when do you loose that status? To me a Beginners Mind is a desirable attitude that keeps your mind open and eager to learn new things. My question however is slightly different and possibly too simplistic. When are you no longer a beginner? My kids and I will be testing for our green belt in a few weeks and although we have learned a lot, compared to our Instructor and other students, we are just babies. I havent asked our Instructor but I suspect that he would consider himself a beginner compared to our Grandmaster. This question may have no real answer or it may be different for different people, Im just curious what others think. Is it possible that the answer to this question may vary depending on the style of martial art?