Long 3

[Seig]

Darth Conatser is on the loose!

 

[Seig]

won't work on me! You are merely trying to cloud the.......oooo....look....shiny.......

 

[Seig]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth

Twilight Zone??!!

I actually don't think there's enough of me to eat.

Jason Farnsworth

That's why he told you to eat more.

 

[Seig]

Have the first aid kits standing by!

 

[ikenpo]

When I first learned this form I thought it was very boring. I think I was introduced to it with that kind of attitude and I adopted it. It wasn't until later that I could appreciate the value of the form.

The questions I have are 1) at the end of destructive twins I noticed on Mr. Billings site he listed to...

5. With that left hand, grab them and pull them into a right reverse punch as you shift into a horsestance facing 10:30.

6. Execute a right push-down block as you pull back slightly; execute a right reverse punch again to the attacker's solar plexus.

7. Execute a right backfist to your attacker's face.

Here are my questions...is the grab after the spear hand to the eyes "new", I didn't learn that grab back in 80's, it seems like a logical move. Also, when you reverse punch at step 6 doesn't the opponent grab your hand? and does the "right push-down block" come out/or after a mini figure 8 that gets your hand free from that grab?

Finally, what are the main points to be taken out of this form?

Thanks, jb:asian:

p.s. This isn't picking on Mr. B's site, but he has nice enough to list the info so I'm using it for reference and as a learning tool. I am very grateful for this tool, as are many others I'm sure.

 

[ikenpo]

Yeah, real good stuff. Thanks for the additional info when we talked yesterday as well.

jb:asian:

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

:asian:

I have no clue, but does it have anything to do with a mirror, or reflection or opposite since you do each techique right and left?

jb

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

"Horse Form"

:asian:

Mr. C,

what are the nicknames for the others?

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by RCastillo



I have a front row seat for that one!

lol,

Reeeeeaalllly.....:shrug:

jb

 

[ikenpo]

Thanks to everyone for the great info.

jb:asian:

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by Doc

Originally posted by jbkenpo


You're smarter than I thought. Of course if you hadn't messed up I'd be teaching that move in a month or so.

:asian:

OUCH!!!!!!!!!! and ouch......LOL

jb:asian:

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by jbkenpo



OUCH!!!!!!!!!! and ouch......LOL

jb:asian:

Good thing I know you only treat those you love this way...:rofl:

jb

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by Doc



You got it grasshopper. :asian:

Yeah,

Remember this...

http://www.geocities.com/kenpo_2000/Photopg.html


jb:asian:

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

I don't want anyone to know I know you on a personal basis...... geezzzzzzz those are copyrighted photos.....!!

What on earth were you thinking......

:rofl:
:asian:

As they say, be careful who you let take your picture. You never know how they'll use it.

jb:asian:

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by AvPKenpo



Or sell them to make money......... .

Michael

Pictures of Kenpo Brotherhood and friendship not for sale here...

jb:asian:

 

[Doc]

Originally posted by jbkenpo

------The questions I have are 1) at the end of destructive twins I noticed on Mr. Billings site he listed to...

5. With that left hand, grab them and pull them into a right reverse punch as you shift into a horsestance facing 10:30.---------

Actually it is not a grab but a counter wrist-flex (as I learned it)

------6. Execute a right push-down block as you pull back slightly; execute a right reverse punch again to the attacker's solar plexus.--------

No push down, but a Control Manipulation as you take hi arm to a Bouyant Hand Position creating a Negative Body Posture to accentuate the next move.

-----7. Execute a right backfist to your attacker's face.----

The backfist is not to the face but attacks gall blader point.

----=Here are my questions...is the grab after the spear hand to the eyes "new",----

There is nothing "new." Only what you haven't been taught which will be "new" to you. Dennis knows.

------I didn't learn that grab back in 80's, it seems like a logical move. Also, when you reverse punch at step 6 doesn't the opponent grab your hand?-----

Multi-level answer. See? Now you know why there is a Control manipulation. You're smarter than I thought. Of course if you hadn't messed up I'd be teaching that move in a month or so.

Secondly at the lower level it is not a punch but a hip displacement misalign in preparation for a takedown in the Default Technique Sequence as I teach it.

----and does the "right push-down block" come out/or after a mini figure 8 that gets your hand free from that grab?----

That will not extricate your hand or arm.

:asian:

 

[Doc]

Originally posted by jbkenpo




Good thing I know you only treat those you love this way...:rofl:

jb

You got it grasshopper. :asian:

 

[Scott Bonner]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

I'd have to kill ya'

maybe in a private lesson

:asian:

What is the point of keeping form nicknames secret? Seems silly to me.

 

[KenpoTess]

while attending the IKC in Boston, I was amazed to see in just about every upper rank division, Someone performing Long 3 in competition. upper ranking black belts, to even blue belts. And the multitude of ways it was performed astounded me. There were 2 guys representing Mexico in the mens brown belt division and they both did one side of Long 3, all the Left side.. nothing at all done on the right. Some people did the form slow motion, almost isometrically, some combined the techniques into more of a ballet, others when it came to Dominating circles .. Pushed those palm heels out ever so slowly...............I saw Long 3 done as a Team competition form with 3 people doing it simultaneously.

I, myself like the form for most part, it does flow pretty well other than Wings of Silk which I really really don't like (coined twirly whirlys with our team

just an observation

 

[Chronuss]

...there is also another term that our team concocted that is...less than politically correct.