Long 3



Originally posted by Goldendragon7

"Horse Form"



The nick name I have for it is the 'Two Horse Form'. Ever heard it refered to as that?

Not that I want to take this O/T but there are lots of nick names for the forms. Maybe that would be a good thread to start too.

For eg. Short III I've heard called 'The long line form' and both of the three's referred to as 'Elbow sets'

anyways..just me a ramblin this was a good thread I shoulda followed it a little more closely when it was posted...

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

I'd have to kill ya'

maybe in a private lesson


I never knew they had nicknames. I'll have to ask my instructor and see if he knows them.

So long 3 is known as the "horse form", hmmmm.......

Thanks for posting the pic. This whole time I had this mental image of Dark Helmet from Spaceballs.

It's real easy to forget your also making a living at this as well. Me this isn't a full time job for me, but it's also more than a hobby too. Someday I want to retire from my everyday job and open my own school, but I'm not at all buisness orientated and wouldn't have a clue what I'm doing :(

Originally posted by RCastillo

He's setting you up for the kill!

Remember the Twilight Zone episode, "To Serve Man"?

Well, you could be the main course!:eek:

I was watching that episode today on Sci-Fi channel too :eek:

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

(1) The combination of individual basics into a sequential flow of uninterrupted motion whereby each basic move remains "crisp" or sharp in its application.

(2) The extemporaneous use of basic combinations where, regardless of number, each move is delivered with clarity and precision..


Interesting. What is the difference between technique, combinations and articulation of motion?

How do movements become extemporaneous in a form?

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

Anybody know?



I didn't know it had a nick name... do they all?

Don't tell me short 2 is called "cat set":flammad:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

okay you win- I don't recall hearing them by anything but their regular names:confused: ever.


Well, looks like no one else has this answer.


That's pretty cool, and so fitting- Mr. Parker coin that?

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

Hi Scott,

I understand your statement however I'd like you to understand my position..... I enjoy the forums as a tool to discuss Kenpo material..... however I would like you to consider that some of us make this our living. I have already come under attack from other Individuals for (putting too much information out) on this and other forums. Now, I hear what other Seniors say to me and I choose to "share" what I want. I do however, at times reserve information for my direct students that assist me in the survival of this world..... Not trying to be silly or selfish ....... I hope you enjoy what I do choose to share and respect that which I do not openly share on this media.


Ya know, that is one of the reasons I don't go to the other forums too much... To give information freely is one thing and even to ask for it is okay. To demand is a bad thing. Well said Mr. Conatser, I agree.

Originally posted by RCastillo

Yep, you have to be a "Fledgling",like me to get info from a eyedropper from the Golden One!:eek:

You have not mastered the force yet... back to basics- slice, parry, fillet-

Originally posted by RCastillo

Fillet?!? Am I a Kenpoist, or a cook???:confused:

Can't you do both at the same time? Follow me again Castillowalker: parry, slice, fillet, tenderize (BUTTE STRIKE), OOOPS!:uhohh:

the grab has been in for years..... just depends who you learn from.

Step 6 ...... no it is a seperate move.... a wrist release.

Main Points to this form:

1. How to use a horse stance as a transitional
Point of Reference when moving from one side of a
technique to another.

2. Various attacks of the Web of Knowledge:
a. Grabs: single wrist front
double wrist front
off shoulder front
one shoulder - side
two shoulders - side
b. Pushes: 2 hands front
c. Hugs: arms free rear
Holds: Full Nelson - rear
d. Locks: double armlock - rear
Chokes: two hand front

3. Various principles contained within the
Individual techniques.

4. The ability to perform with equal agility on
either side of the body (right or left).

5. The use of an ideal positioning of the body as
a Point of Reference which will enable you to
move rapidly, easily, and without hesitation.

6. The benefits of the use of BODY FUSION.

7. The need for instantaneous action or reaction
that ignites and bursts from inside out with
repetitive succession.

8. The importance of HARNESSING THE FORCE.

9. The employment of INTERCEPTING FORCES during
your defensive or offensive action.

10. The ability to observe and evaluate all
surroundings without concentrating on any one
specific area.

11. Viewing your particular predicament by taking
fleeting glances.

12. The use of SYMMETRICAL MOVEMENTS to develop
naturally flowing CORRESPONDING ANGLES in
both your basic and sequential movement. This
will ultimately lead to better balance in
your transitional moves.

13. The correct manner and value of TWIRLING.

14. The repetitive emphasis on ALIGNMENT to
insure the precise adjustment of your torso
and limbs so that they are arranged in
direct line with each other for the purpose of utilizing total body mass.

15. Stresses the importance of ARTICULATION OF

16. The proper use of COUNTER ROTATION, when
reversing the action and path of your torque,
or twirling in the opposite direction from a
previous twirling move.


18. How to defend against simultaneous flank
attacks by two men.

19. Others.......

(1) The combination of individual basics into a sequential flow of uninterrupted motion whereby each basic move remains "crisp" or sharp in its application.

(2) The extemporaneous use of basic combinations where, regardless of number, each move is delivered with clarity and precision..


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