Just pokin the bears ;)

[Tgace]

Just got this e-mail...one of those "pass it around" things.


"I'm trying to get all this political stuff straightened out in my head
so I can persuade all my friends not make a stupid choice and vote for a guy
from Massachusetts who talks funny and mispronounces words like Gingas Khan
and nuclear this November. He doesn't talk or act like us Texans, or for
that matter most people in the South. Right now, we have one guy saying one
thing. Then the other guy says something else. For the most part I know
who to believe and he's nicknamed "W". Let me see; have I got this
straight?

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia -good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian
terrorists- good...
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good..
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Economy on upswing under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good...
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam turned over for trial - bad...

Ahh, it's so confusing!

Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes the
average tax burden on Americans, and then calculates the "Tax Freedom Day".
This is the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the
government.

This year, tax freedom day was April 11th. That's the earliest it has been
since 1991. Its latest day ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000. Notice
anything special about those dates?

Recently, John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are
actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the tax cuts. He gave
no explanation and provided no data for this claim. Another interesting
fact: Both George Bush and John Kerry are wealthy men.

Bush owns only one home, his ranch in Texas. Kerry owns 4 mansions,
all worth several million dollars. (His ski resort home in Idaho
is an old barn brought over from Europe in pieces? Not your average
A-frame).

Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid $90,000. Does that
sound right? The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has figured out
a way to avoid paying his own.

Pass this on. Only 60 days until the election"

 

[Tgace]

I sense the bears are gathering...........

 

[Flatlander]

No mass graves found in Serbia...

I don't believe this to be accurate. From this site:

During Kosovo, Arbour was repeatedly quoted describing atrocities, massacres, mass graves and 740,000 Albanian Kosovars displaced by Serbs.

She sent teams of investigators and forensic specialists into Kosovo to find evidence. Arbour and her deputy Graham Blewitt defined seven specific sites where massacres had occurred and mass graves existed.

 

[Flatlander]

I sense the bears are gathering...........

:rofl:

 

[Tgace]

Details!!!!!



actually I caught that one too...I was in Bosnia from 99-00. Lived on Halliburton food.

 

[rmcrobertson]

It's not that confusing.

First off, ya trusted an anonymous e-mail--why's this a good idea?

Second off, a number of the comparasions are either far-fetched or incomplete. For example, we kinda left out the whole coalition-building thingy, eh? As in getting UN support vs. telling the UN to go **** itself?

Third off, nothing in this top ten list changes the fact that Bush II is the child of a very wealthy and powerful family, who has been privileged his entire life.

Fourth off, why not add some further comparasions? Bill Clinton admits to getting a blowjob in the Xerox room--bad; George Bush launches undeclared, illegal, and unjustified war, good.

See? it's easy to do; don't mean diddley.

By the way, I see there's a new Christian Conservative documentary coming out on Bush II. In it, his supporters claim that Bush II was chosen by God.

That, right there, would do it for me. But hey, keep your mind so open that your brain falls out---isn't, "keeping you mind open," what we're being told all the time by the Right? The guys who ban books, enforce loyalty oaths, try to get evil-lution out of the schools?

Apparently, "pokin the bears," means, "Say some outrageously goofy, then try to recast any criticism as simply pointless carping."

 

[Tgace]

Im sorry...THE NEO-CONS ARE OUT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!

Better???

 

[rmcrobertson]

I don't so much mind if it's, "neo-cons," whatever that means.

I do object if it's mean-spirited dorks who aren't very bright and who refuse to look at reality, and whose real point is to push their moral and religious agendas as well as to suck as much money out of the rest of us as they possibly can.

 

[Flatlander]

Nice banana.

 

[RandomPhantom700]

rmcrobertson's points

1. What does the source of the email have to do with anything? Whatever their motives in writing it, the message stands on its own to be criticized.

2. Yeah, I agree.

3. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a CRIME! It's right there in the books! Right there...somewhere...um, just let me find it....hold on...I highlighted it, I swear!

4. No comment.

As for the documentary, would this be the same god that unleashed 9/11 on us because of all the sin in America that Bush represents?

Oh yeah, love the dancing banana.

 

[Makalakumu]

Im sorry...THE NEO-CONS ARE OUT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!

Better???

Nope. They are out to reform Islam by force, though. They also think that the war on terror is WW4. 1.6 billion people "reformed" is a damned tall order. An interesting book that gives a lot of good info about this is House of Bush House of Saud, by Craig Unger. Check it out. I never knew a lot of the details surrounding Iran/Contra, the Iran/Iraq war, and the CIAs support of the Mujahideen were so intimately tied to what we are seeing today...

 

[michaeledward]

Just got this e-mail...

Man, I just hope the bear rips your arm off.. it'ld serve you right.

 

[RandomPhantom700]

Detecting a bit of hostility there, Mr. Edward?

 

[kenpo tiger]

Just got this e-mail...one of those "pass it around" things.


"I'm trying to get all this political stuff straightened out in my head
so I can persuade all my friends not make a stupid choice and vote for a guy
from Massachusetts who talks funny and mispronounces words like Gingas Khan
and nuclear this November. He doesn't talk or act like us Texans, or for
that matter most people in the South. Right now, we have one guy saying one
thing. Then the other guy says something else. For the most part I know
who to believe and he's nicknamed "W". Let me see; have I got this
straight?

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia -good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian
terrorists- good...
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good..
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Economy on upswing under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good...
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam turned over for trial - bad...

Ahh, it's so confusing!

Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes the
average tax burden on Americans, and then calculates the "Tax Freedom Day".
This is the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the
government.

This year, tax freedom day was April 11th. That's the earliest it has been
since 1991. Its latest day ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000. Notice
anything special about those dates?

Recently, John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are
actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the tax cuts. He gave
no explanation and provided no data for this claim. Another interesting
fact: Both George Bush and John Kerry are wealthy men.

Bush owns only one home, his ranch in Texas. Kerry owns 4 mansions,
all worth several million dollars. (His ski resort home in Idaho
is an old barn brought over from Europe in pieces? Not your average
A-frame).

Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid $90,000. Does that
sound right? The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has figured out
a way to avoid paying his own.

Pass this on. Only 60 days until the election"

Okay. First point: W misprounces nuclear, as do the vast majority of people (nucular). They also misprounounce veteran (vetran) and a myriad of other words. So he's 'ignant'.

Secondly, Mr. Kerry is married to a very very wealthy woman, who owns the majority of those homes and properties. His town house on Beacon Hill is very nice, but not a vast mansion like the one I'm sure W has in the south 40.

Thirdly, and it's Monday, so I must be feeling a bit weak from the weekend, I agree with Robertson. You trust every email you receive as gospel? Yeesh. I have a bridge I can sell you...

 

[loki09789]

Don't like playing with you Tom it seems.

Maybe it's really 'poking the Teddy Bear' that you ended up doing.

 

[loki09789]

Okay. First point: W misprounces nuclear, as do the vast majority of people (nucular). They also misprounounce veteran (vetran) and a myriad of other words. So he's 'ignant'.

Secondly, Mr. Kerry is married to a very very wealthy woman, who owns the majority of those homes and properties. His town house on Beacon Hill is very nice, but not a vast mansion like the one I'm sure W has in the south 40.

Thirdly, and it's Monday, so I must be feeling a bit weak from the weekend, I agree with Robertson. You trust every email you receive as gospel? Yeesh. I have a bridge I can sell you...

I don't think it was a matter of 'trust' as much as 'alignment.' The post points something out - if you want to take the time to discredit the source then prove it wrong.

There have been just as thin pieces of text or sources from SERIOUSLY biased sources that have gone unchallenged.

If you can't discuss the topic attack the source I guess.

 

[D_Brady]

Thirdly, and it's Monday, so I must be feeling a bit weak from the weekend, I agree with Robertson. You trust every email you receive as gospel? Yeesh. I have a bridge I can sell you...[/QUOTE]


Maybe CBS can check it out for us.

 

[michaeledward]

Those doin' the pokin' apparently haven't figured out that there is no one on the ballot named 'Clinton'.

That is the first, but certainly not the only problem with the premise.

And some think the President is an intellectual lightweight ... geesh ... with supporters like this . . . .

 

[loki09789]

Those doin' the pokin' apparently haven't figured out that there is no one on the ballot named 'Clinton'.

That is the first, but certainly not the only problem with the premise.

And some think the President is an intellectual lightweight ... geesh ... with supporters like this . . . .

Making a point about politics and the formation of political reactions AND how they can create perceptions/judgements...., not trying to say the people are relevant.

If that is being lost on the interpreters geesh...and who said anything about supporting anyone as much as commenting that is more than just "I hate so and so"?

 

[michaeledward]

Making a point about politics and the formation of political reactions AND how they can create perceptions/judgements...., not trying to say the people are relevant.

If that is being lost on the interpreters geesh...and who said anything about supporting anyone as much as commenting that is more than just "I hate so and so"?

BULLHOCKEY ! ! !

Look at the title of the thread. Look at the content of the thread.

This is not a 'Gee, I found this interesting' post. The objective is to continue to disperse falsehoods and suppress knowledge. It is easier to spew hyperbole than to defend defenseless positions. Kick up the dust, so nobody can see.

Again ... BULLHOCKEY!

Some people actually delete SPAM from their inbox.