JKD Question
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Razznik
Blue Belt
Ok! Sorry.
Ivan
Black Belt
Karate, and Chacha dance moves. Much of his footwork was inspired by his experience with Cha Cha dancing. He also took on an apprentice who was a black belt in Karate and both learnt a lot from each other.
Lastly, there is rumours that many of his kicks come from Taekwondo, but I've not seen any sources to confirm this.
He offered a suggestion, it shows he is interested in the subject and there's absolutely no reason why he can't join in the conversation, your comment is rude.
It is really rude to say that my comment is rude.
I will cry all night.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
I think most people who spend more than just a few years in MA will have some degree of exposure to a ton of different arts. I don't really think Bruce Lee actually trained in TKD, but would be surprised if he hadn't been shown how to do a few TKD-style kicks.
Razznik
Blue Belt
I agree. He probably gained inspiration for JKD from this
I remember hearing he and Jhoon Rhee (sp?) were good friends.
I have heard that the Gong Li Chuan was the last form that Bruce Lee had learned in Hong Kong.
frank raud
Master of Arts
According to Paul Vunak
1) Wing chun
2) Northern praying mantis
3) Southern praying mantis
4) Choy li fut
5) Taiji (wu family style)
6) Bagua
7) Xingyi
8) Bak-hoo pai (white crane) and bak-fu pai (white tiger)
9) Eagle claw
10) Ng ga kuen (five family system)
11) Ny ying ga (five animal system)
12) Bak mei pai (white eyebrow)
13) Northern shaolin
14) Southern shaolin
15) Bok pai
16) Law horn kuen
17) Chinna
18) Monkey
19) Drunken
20) Western fencing (foil)
21) Boxing
22) Wrestling
23) Jiujutsu
24) Eskrima
25) Sikaran
26) Muay thai
1) Wing chun
2) Northern praying mantis
3) Southern praying mantis
4) Choy li fut
5) Taiji (wu family style)
6) Bagua
7) Xingyi
8) Bak-hoo pai (white crane) and bak-fu pai (white tiger)
9) Eagle claw
10) Ng ga kuen (five family system)
11) Ny ying ga (five animal system)
12) Bak mei pai (white eyebrow)
13) Northern shaolin
14) Southern shaolin
15) Bok pai
16) Law horn kuen
17) Chinna
18) Monkey
19) Drunken
20) Western fencing (foil)
21) Boxing
22) Wrestling
23) Jiujutsu
24) Eskrima
25) Sikaran
26) Muay thai
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
I wonder how he defines all these methods as having an influence on JKD. This is a big list, these are systems that require serious study in order to understand on a meaningful level. One cannot just observe them a bit, ponder them on an intellectual basis, and then āwork in the elementsā with any honest claim to an influence.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
As far as actually studied, not observed or read about, all I can find is Wing Chun, Fencing, Boxing and Judo. I find Paul Vunak list rather hard to believe since Bruce started in Hong Kong at about 13 and came to the USA in 1959 a the age of 19 and died at 33 only 14 year later. And teachers in Hong Kong at that time were big on the idea of cross training, you were their student or you were not. Also the culture was not much different in Chinatown in the 50s and 60s.And many of those on that list, would not have been found with anyone other than a Chinese Shifu in the 50s and 60s
So it is highly unlikely he actually trained all of these; Wing chun, Northern praying mantis, Southern praying mantis, Choy li fut, Taiji (wu family style), Baguazhang, Xingyiquan, Bak-hoo pai (white crane) and bak-fu pai (white tiger), Eagle claw, Ng ga kuen (five family system), Ny ying ga (five animal system), Bak mei pai (white eyebrow), Northern shaolin, Southern shaolin, Bok pai, Law horn kuen, Monkey, Drunken. As for QInna, it is part of a lot of CMA styles and it is found in Judo too.
Note: Paul Vunak was a student of Dan Inosanto
Dong xiao hu
Orange Belt
According to Dan Inasanto many of these styles did not provide techniques. Instead they where influential because of a training method, philosophy, conditioning method, or what not to do. JKD can be described as a search for the common thread.
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isshinryuronin
Senior Master
I agree. Bruce did not actively train in many arts (maybe four or five) but did educate himself on many more .
The value of fencing in the study of combat is not limited to using a sword. Lines of attack, beats, deflections, control of space and distance, development of speed and reflexes and a number of other fencing concepts can be applied to empty hand fighting. Read the top quote again.
