I competed in another fighting style without speaking to my Sensei first (serious)

[Notdirtydannnnn49 2]

This hits on the ultimate paradox of traditional martial arts. High-contact sparring gives you that necessary reality check and builds grit, but turning it into a competition where the goal is to land a concussion just for a shiny trophy completely shifts the incentives. Knowing how to hit hard is essential, but having the control and restraint not to break your training partners is where the actual skill lies. Excellent point on the psychological trap of full-contact tournaments.

Usually nobody gets hurt where I train, sometimes the younger teens get mad at each other and cry a little; but that's normal kid behavior.

Head/face kicks usually get pulled, sweeps are fair, hard shots to the body are fair, and hard thigh kicks are fair.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

It's.... kind of a toxic mix of bad blood between TMA and MMA caused largely- in my opinion- by the way styles have marketed themselves and competed. It's changing- people are starting to give less of a stuff, and quite rightly too.

Yeah. When I was coming up through the ranks, TMA talked about how unrefined and brutish MMA fighters were (and how they wouldn't be able to fight without rules), and MMA folks were starting to talk about TMA as if it was impossible to train TMA and still be able to fight (in spite of the fact that MMA started largely from precisely that).

 

[Notdirtydannnnn49 2]

Yeah. When I was coming up through the ranks, TMA talked about how unrefined and brutish MMA fighters were (and how they wouldn't be able to fight without rules), and MMA folks were starting to talk about TMA as if it was impossible to train TMA and still be able to fight (in spite of the fact that MMA started largely from precisely that).

I went to a local MMA show recently, it was precisely that.. brutish. Also without decorum, honor, or respect in a lot of cases.

I watched a guy throw a sucker punch at the opening fist bump get knocked out at the 30 second mark and that was very satisfying to watch.

 

[Gyakuto169 178]

I went to a local MMA show recently, it was precisely that.. brutish. Also without decorum, honor, or respect in a lot of cases.

It can be quite instructive to witness such behaviour from time to time. It serves as a salutary reminder of humanity’s long and evidently incomplete journey out of the primordial mud, and of how thin the veneer of civilisation actually is when disrespectful aggression is elevated to entertainment. One is left wondering whether we are witnessing the celebration of martial excellence or simply rather primitive brawling dressed up as a sporting event. Bring back gladiatorial events, eh?

I watched a guy throw a sucker punch at the opening fist bump get knocked out at the 30 second mark and that was very satisfying to watch.

I bet his loved ones are very proud of his honorable behaviour. He will be up there with Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Mandela…

 

[Notdirtydannnnn49 2]

It can be quite instructive to witness such behaviour from time to time. It serves as a salutary reminder of humanity’s long and evidently incomplete journey out of the primordial mud, and of how thin the veneer of civilisation actually is when disrespectful aggression is elevated to entertainment. One is left wondering whether we are witnessing the celebration of martial excellence or simply rather primitive brawling dressed up as a sporting event. Bring back gladiatorial events, eh?

I bet his loved ones are very proud of his honorable behaviour. He will be up there with Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Mandela…

Well put.

Cage
Brawlers
Alcohol
Lack of Respect
Cheap food

Give them bread and circuses.

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At the very least I am positive that guy is the butt of every joke at his MMA gym; not sure how anyone can live that down.

 

[Matt5 3]

I currently train in a full contact karate discipline, I have always wanted to take a real fight and recently had the opportunity to test my might in a Muay Thai tournament.

Here lies the issue: I didn't say anything to my dojo, I just took a week to prepare and showed up to the tournament as an independent fighter (meaning I didn't fight under their dojo name).

This question is directed to the Sensei's and Shihan's here, would you be upset that a student in your club fought elsewhere without your knowledge?

On one hand I am in my 30's and am an adult, so asking 'permission' feels a bit weird to me, especially from someone I only see a few hours a week, but on the other hand a little bit of professional courtesy goes a long way and is respectful.

I could see this going 1 of 2 ways: Either they don't care and think it's cool I took a real fight and was competitive, or 2 they feel disrespected and I possibly get expelled.

What do you guys think?

Also if anyone is interested I can give the play by play, it was a fun but challenging learning experience.

Probably wouldn't get punched in the face for free again though.

I would have been sad. I would have liked to be there to support you and bummed out that I missed the opportunity. At least to buy a ticket to show my support.