Chuck Norris and a BJJ question
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Not sure how accurate this is, but.....
http://wikibin.org/articles/list-of-celebrity-brazilian-jiu-jitsu-practitioners.html
Chuck Norris (Martial Artist/Actor): Black belt under Rigan Machado.
http://wikibin.org/articles/list-of-celebrity-brazilian-jiu-jitsu-practitioners.html
Chuck Norris (Martial Artist/Actor): Black belt under Rigan Machado.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Pretty damned close to the source. His lineage basically looks like this:
Meada >> Carlos Gracie Sr. >> Carlos Gracie Jr. (head of IBJJF and Gracie Barra) >> Carlos Machado
The five Machado brothers were right there in the mix at the very beginning. They all trained extensively with Helio, Carlos Sr., Carlinhos and Rolls Gracie, and are related to them by marriage.
The pedigree doesn't get much better. Carlos Machado is an 8th degree red/black belt.
punisher73
Senior Master
As Steve pointed out, the Machado's are VERY good and very close to the source of BJJ. The only bad stuff I had heard about the Machados was basically when they first started making it really big here in the US, some of the Gracie camp took exception to it and distanced themselves from it with some of the "sport" vs. "self-defense" stuff. If you trained with the Machados (again, just stuff talked about when I was new to the BJJ scene) then you were NOT welcomed at the Gracies. It used to be VERY territorial (sp?) on who you studied with and you did NOT study with anyone else. I don't think it is that way anymore, but it has been awhile since I have rolled.
bjjcompete
White Belt
I was expecting a Chuck Norris joke involving BJJ.
Chuck Norris once killed two stones with one bird.
Chuck Norris once killed two stones with one bird.
LOL. Chuck's member is so big they had to add another J?
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Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
Yes I am sure he received his blackbelt from the Machados. Plus he also had a Judo brown or blackbelt from way back in the day.
Did you check the google books for the old editions of BB magazine etc.? Maybe find further information there?
Here is an article where Carlos recalls meeting Chuck (at foot and continued)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=G9kDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA54
Here is an article where Carlos recalls meeting Chuck (at foot and continued)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=G9kDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA54
I think that is changing though.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Just what I hear and what I see.
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Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
Which one BJJ or the other MAs?
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Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
I have no doubt that over time, especially as BJ gains in popularity you will start seeing belt factories appear and that is a rather sad thought to me. I remember when getting a belt was not easy in an art and then things changed and people started giving the things away to gain students and promising Black belts in a year.
However I would be thrilled if other MAs where starting to make it harder, more like the old days
However I would be thrilled if other MAs where starting to make it harder, more like the old days
Steve
Mostly Harmless
I would agree that there are some changes occurring within the BJJ community. The growth of BJJ as a sport has led to more schools and an increasing distance between "sport" and "self defense" oriented schools.
But, I've not seen any indication that standards are dropping at all. The emphasis on competition and the cross pollination that occurs regularly within the BJJ community keeps schools from promoting too quickly or too slowly. Promote too fast and your school will gain a reputation for low standards. Promote too slow and your school will gain a reputation as sandbagging. And if you choose not to participate, you will quickly find your school ostracized.
And if you're teaching without credentials, you risk incurring the wrath of the BJJihad.
Bottom line, though, is that I believe the allegations of lower standards is a combination of wishful thinking and idle speculation.Similar threads
