Chow is in lineage of EPK????

chow is in lineage AK?

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Gin-Gin

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Seig said:
If it is ED PARKER'S American Kenpo, how can it be anyone else's?
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Old Fat Kenpoka said:
From which I conclude that this thread is incorrectly titled. It is not about Chow or Parker (Or the Tracy's or Mitose or Juchnick or Emperado or any othe Kenpoist). It is about the preferred definition of the word lineage.
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Old Fat Kenpoka said:
rmcrobertson said:
1. Maybe it's time to look up the word, "lineage."QUOTE]

1. Summarized From Miriam Webster On-line:
Main Entry: 1lin·e·age
Pronunciation: 'li-nE-ij also 'li-nij
Function: noun
1 descent in a line from a common progenitor
2 a group of individuals tracing descent from a common ancestor; especially : such a group of persons whose common ancestor is regarded as its founder

So, if you take definition 1, then Chow is in the lineage; if you take definition 2, then Chow is not.

From which I conclude that this thread is incorrectly titled. It is not about Chow or Parker (Or the Tracy's or Mitose or Juchnick or Emperado or any othe Kenpoist). It is about the preferred definition of the word lineage.
Ed Parker is both the progenitor and the founder of EPAK. So by both definitions Chow is not in the Lineage of EPK.

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Kenpodoc said:
Ed Parker is both the progenitor and the founder of EPAK. So by both definitions Chow is not in the Lineage of EPK.

Jeff :)

From Miriam Webster online:
Main Entry: pro·gen·i·tor
Pronunciation: prO-'je-n&-t&r, pr&-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French progeniteur, from Latin progenitor, from progignere to beget, from pro- forth + gignere to beget -- more at KIN
1 a : an ancestor in the direct line : FOREFATHER b : a biologically ancestral form
2 : PRECURSOR, ORIGINATOR <progenitors of socialist ideas -- Times Literary Supplement>

And
Main Entry: pre·cur·sor
Pronunciation: pri-'k&r-s&r, 'prE-"
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English precursoure, from Latin praecursor, from praecurrere to run before, from prae- pre- + currere to run -- more at CURRENT
1 a : one that precedes and indicates the approach of another b : PREDECESSOR

And
Main Entry: fore·fa·ther
Pronunciation: -"fä-[th]&r, -"f[a']-
Function: noun
1 : ANCESTOR 1a
2 : a person of an earlier period and common heritage

I conclude that Chow is Parker's Progenitor, Predecessor and Precursor.
Furthermore...if Parker is the "Father" of American Kenpo, then Chow is the "Forefather" which clearly puts him in the lineage of EPAK.
 

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Old Fat Kenpoka said:
From Miriam Webster online:
Main Entry: pro·gen·i·tor
Pronunciation: prO-'je-n&-t&r, pr&-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French progeniteur, from Latin progenitor, from progignere to beget, from pro- forth + gignere to beget -- more at KIN
1 a : an ancestor in the direct line : FOREFATHER b : a biologically ancestral form
2 : PRECURSOR, ORIGINATOR <progenitors of socialist ideas -- Times Literary Supplement>

And
Main Entry: pre·cur·sor
Pronunciation: pri-'k&r-s&r, 'prE-"
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English precursoure, from Latin praecursor, from praecurrere to run before, from prae- pre- + currere to run -- more at CURRENT
1 a : one that precedes and indicates the approach of another b : PREDECESSOR

And
Main Entry: fore·fa·ther
Pronunciation: -"fä-[th]&r, -"f[a']-
Function: noun
1 : ANCESTOR 1a
2 : a person of an earlier period and common heritage

I conclude that Chow is Parker's Progenitor, Predecessor and Precursor.
Furthermore...if Parker is the "Father" of American Kenpo, then Chow is the "Forefather" which clearly puts him in the lineage of EPAK.
Then clearly, by this logic, Benjamin Franklin gets credit for the light bulb and the telephone. Sounds patently absurd, doesn't it? Chow is in the history of Ed Parker's American Kenpo, not the lineage. Ed Parker founded they system, not Chow. That's why it's not called Chow's American Kenpo.
 

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Seig said:
Then clearly, by this logic, Benjamin Franklin gets credit for the light bulb and the telephone. Sounds patently absurd, doesn't it? Chow is in the history of Ed Parker's American Kenpo, not the lineage. Ed Parker founded they system, not Chow. That's why it's not called Chow's American Kenpo.
Logic? who has a use for that antiquated ideal these days?

Sorry for the sarcasim, I couldn't agree more Seig.
 

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All of this stirred up from a troll who doesn't study any kind of kenpo, and who bounces (or gets bounced) from forum to forum getting his "attention" fix. Stop answering and maybe he'll go away.
 
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