Article 8 Time/Age limits POOM/DAN

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Charlie is on the USA-NKF JR National Team and is a Shodan in Shotokan Karate...current National Champion 14-15 under 60kl...His black belt is regularly questioned on this BBS some have even called me a liar!

Which is humorous, considering that I have seen it referred to as "children's karate" quite a few times on this BBS.
 

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Skill level does have a lot to do with it. When I see a child black belt who is incredibly skilled I dont have a problem with it as much, but highly skilled child black belts are incredibly rare. I must admit, since Ive started shotokan I have seen much higher skilled children, there is a kid in my shotokan class who is an eight year old green belt and he is really good, he trains six days a week though, and the club is incredibly strict on kid's standards. It is extremely rare for a child not to have to "sit out" every second grading, and the slightest slip up at grading is automatic fail. With these sorts of guidelines, I can accept child black belts a little more. I have only seen one child black belt since training there and he is mind blowingly good.
 
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Charlie just won a Bronze Medal tonight at the Karate JR International Open under 60kl..he won 5 fights lost 4-3 to Venezuela...
This kid was the under 57 kg Pan Am Champion...had fighters From Australia, Sierra Leone, Mexico, Venezuela and Ecuador.

HE fights in the US Open on Sunday un 52kg...
 

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Skill level does have a lot to do with it. When I see a child black belt who is incredibly skilled I dont have a problem with it as much, but highly skilled child black belts are incredibly rare. I must admit, since Ive started shotokan I have seen much higher skilled children, there is a kid in my shotokan class who is an eight year old green belt and he is really good, he trains six days a week though, and the club is incredibly strict on kid's standards. It is extremely rare for a child not to have to "sit out" every second grading, and the slightest slip up at grading is automatic fail. With these sorts of guidelines, I can accept child black belts a little more. I have only seen one child black belt since training there and he is mind blowingly good.
When the child demonstrates the ability, I am fine with it. I don't even require them to be as good as the one's in the video, as many adult black belts are not either. As I said, I saw video of a fourth dan who wasn't that good within the past year.

However, when a school is cranking them out, I tend to view it as a business decision designed to milk parents out of one last chunk of cash prior to the contract's end.
 
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When the child demonstrates the ability, I am fine with it. I don't even require them to be as good as the one's in the video, as many adult black belts are not either. As I said, I saw video of a fourth dan who wasn't that good within the past year.

However, when a school is cranking them out, I tend to view it as a business decision designed to milk parents out of one last chunk of cash prior to the contract's end.

Did we see the same video!:fart:
 

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When the child demonstrates the ability, I am fine with it. I don't even require them to be as good as the one's in the video, as many adult black belts are not either. As I said, I saw video of a fourth dan who wasn't that good within the past year.

However, when a school is cranking them out, I tend to view it as a business decision designed to milk parents out of one last chunk of cash prior to the contract's end.
Did we see the same video!:fart:
Are you talking about the kid or the adult that I mentioned?
 
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The Adult... it was not a serious question! Probably a little punchy...I just spent 3 days and 36 hours running a scoreboard at a Karate tournament.
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