Half Punch name?

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  1. AaronP

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    Hi
    Can anyone help me with the name of a punch I have been shown? It is a low waist half punch, the forearm remains vertical but the fist is upright. The fist is driven in by a stong rear leg and a hip twist. Can anyone help with the name? In Te-waza, the fist remains horizontal.

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    What style karate? Different styles use different names for the same thing.

    Is the palm facing up at the end of the punch? If it's like a punch that's palm up and aimed at the abdomen just below the ribs, it's shita-tsuki. At least how I'm picturing it. A common punch in Kyokushin and offshoots.

    About 1:00 into this video. Ignore the stance and lack of body rotation; this is just a way to teach beginners the basics of it and it is used in this manner as more of a warmup than anything else, but the punch (arm and fist movement) are what I think you're describing...

     
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    Hi
    Thanks for the video. The punch has the palm facing across - so the fist is upright rather than palm up? The target is the same though - bottom two ribs. The style is Shotokan.
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    The punch done about 22 seconds into this video?



    If so, I'm not sure. We don't do that kata, but we do that punch in a 45 degree horse stance; we just call it chudan gyaku tsuki (if we're in 45 degree kiha daschi, we know what punch our teacher means).

    Crazy question... have you asked your teacher?
     
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    Hi - thanks for the reply.

    Its not the punch in Tekki Shodan either - although I'm learning more punches for my practice sessions!

    The punch is the same as seiken shita tsuki but the fits is upright - I think like they hold their fist in Wing Chun.

    My teacher called it something like tata tsuki. My style is a hybrid of Wado and Shotakan as there is not a lot of choice where I live.

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    So basically a short, vertical fist punch aimed just below the ribs, like a vertical fisted shita tsuki? We call it tata ken. The only Japanese I speak is dojo Japanese, but I'm assuming tata ken means vertical fist (punch implied). If I'm right, tata tsuki would mean vertical punch.

    I don't see how different styles wouldn't call it tata tsuki while we call it tata ken. If my dojo Japanese is correct, both would be accurate names.
     
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    Hi JR,

    Yes, that's the punch - tata Ken.

    It's shown briefly in the video below at exactly 1:43 1:44 as a part of a kata ( I'm not sure of the kata's name but the documentary is on Okinawan Karate)



    Thanks

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    Sounds like a simple uppercut to me.
     
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    Yea but in Japanese...123
     

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