Would you rather win at all costs? Or win correctly?

[Hyoho2 1]

In the post where I first quoted from Jigen ryu website I provided the link, that you easily could open to read further, since you didn’t do that, I quoted further(and provided the link again). The website is of the school that also house the Jigen ryu museum, so I guess they know quite well what they claim about the Jigen ryu history.
However there is contact info on their website so you can reach them if you sit on info about their school they don’t know about

My link with Jigen Ryu is personal. I used to do Hono embu with them at their functions. Also the Kagoshima Kobudo Taikai, which is 99% Kobudo that you will never ever see anywhere else. I have also practiced in the Jigen ryu Heiho Sho. As you say it now houses a museum. It is the first ever Jigen ryu dojo/heihosho, as before they practiced in secret at an undisclosed location. To practice there is shocking, to say the least. What you will never see in a national embu is their approach to an attack. They run at you with a wild piercing scream. It's so devastating that any normal person would either run or piss themselves. So Alexander Bradshaw, who practiced MJER and Nitenichiryu, moved there some years ago and married. He is ahead of tourist relations in Kagoshima and is now a senior member of the Ryu.

 

[Flying Crane]

Why do you even need a sword for if you never want to draw your sword?

Because a sane person doesn’t actually want to kill people, even though a sane person can understand that at times it might be unavoidable and necessary.

Really, this is not confusing.

 

[Flying Crane]

Actually I did think that tactic was from the fables, but, I had to look it up, so this came up -
“As described by the National Parks Service, the advice to play dead during a bear attack only applies to grizzly (brown) bears. “


Think Twice Before Playing Dead If You See A Bear. Here's Why - Outdoor Guide

I believe this is because you cannot bluff or frighten off a grizzly/brown bear, it just isn’t in their nature. So you play dead/roll into a ball and do your best to protect your vitals, and hope you survive the mauling that is to come (You only do this if the bear actually attacks). Because to fight back guarantees it won’t stop until you are dead.

A black bear can possibly be dissuaded/frightened off, so you make yourself look big, make a lot of noise, etc., and it depends on the individual bear.

 

[_Simon_145 176]

I believe this is because you cannot bluff or frighten off a grizzly/brown bear, it just isn’t in their nature. So you play dead/roll into a ball and do your best to protect your vitals, and hope you survive the mauling that is to come (You only do this if the bear actually attacks). Because to fight back guarantees it won’t stop until you are dead.

A black bear can possibly be dissuaded/frightened off, so you make yourself look big, make a lot of noise, etc., and it depends on the individual bear.

Yeah I do remember some rhyme-y thing about bears..

"If it's brown, lie down.
If black, fight back.
If white... you're screwed either way!!"

Something like that...

 

[Kung Fu Wang146 176]

Yeah I do remember some rhyme-y thing about bears..

"If it's brown, lie down.
If black, fight back.
If white... you're screwed either way!!"

Something like that...

I always carry a spear head with me when I'm in the wood. If I attach it on my metal hiking stick, it turns into a spear.

 

[Kung Fu Wang146 176]

Would you rather win at all costs? Or win correctly?​

When 2 persons fight, 不就是两个人在玩心眼吗 “It’s just the two of them trying to outsmart each other.”

Do you follow any rules when you try to outsmart your opponent?

 

[Flying Crane]

I always carry a spear head with me when I'm in the wood. If I attach it on my metal hiking stick, it turns into a spear.

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Are you saying you think you could use that against an attacking grizzly? You think you would have time to attach the spear head to the staff before the grizzly hit you like a freight train? You think that spear would be effective against a grizzly, even if you managed to get it affixed to the staff?

 

[Same Trick91 42]

My link with Jigen Ryu is personal. I used to do Hono embu with them at their functions. Also the Kagoshima Kobudo Taikai, which is 99% Kobudo that you will never ever see anywhere else. I have also practiced in the Jigen ryu Heiho Sho. As you say it now houses a museum. It is the first ever Jigen ryu dojo/heihosho, as before they practiced in secret at an undisclosed location. To practice there is shocking, to say the least. What you will never see in a national embu is their approach to an attack. They run at you with a wild piercing scream. It's so devastating that any normal person would either run or piss themselves. So Alexander Bradshaw, who practiced MJER and Nitenichiryu, moved there some years ago and married. He is ahead of tourist relations in Kagoshima and is now a senior member of the Ryu.

I envy you, Jigen ryu is the sword school that fascinates me most, the spirit in and of it.
As I used to do Shotokan i of course read and heard of Jigen ryu and it’s supposed connection to Shotokan, with internet came around I definitely saw and see something I really like in Jigen ryu, would have loved to try it out

 

[Same Trick91 42]

I believe this is because you cannot bluff or frighten off a grizzly/brown bear, it just isn’t in their nature. So you play dead/roll into a ball and do your best to protect your vitals, and hope you survive the mauling that is to come (You only do this if the bear actually attacks). Because to fight back guarantees it won’t stop until you are dead.

A black bear can possibly be dissuaded/frightened off, so you make yourself look big, make a lot of noise, etc., and it depends on the individual bear.

But plying dead is kind of bluffing ?

 

[Flying Crane]

But plying dead is kind of bluffing ?

It can i suppose, as a simple deception. but bluffing typically implies pretending that one is in a stronger position than one really is.

 

[Same Trick91 42]

It can i suppose, as a simple deception. but bluffing typically implies pretending that one is in a stronger position than one really is.

“If you are strong, appear weak. But if you are weak, appear strong.”

Sun Tzu

This was maybe what went on in KFW’s grizzly encounter ?