Would you pay to to go to work for no salary?

[Xue Sheng156 9]

Some in Greece might.

Some Greeks Might Have to Pay for Their Jobs

Salary cutbacks (called "unified payroll") for contract workers at the public sector set to be finalized today. Cuts to be valid retroactively since november 2011. Expected result: Up to 64.000 people will work without salary this month, or even be asked to return money. Amongst them 21.000 teachers, 13.000 municipal employees and 30.000 civil servants.

 

[Big Don]

Tell us again how wonderful socialism is...

 

[Xue Sheng156 9]

Tell us again how wonderful socialism is...

Don't be dissin' the Euro Zone

 

[Tez3]

Don't be dissin' the Euro Zone

That's got more to do with it than having a scoialist government I'm afraid, the Euro crisis is knocking governments of all political shades. Eire's government isn't socialist, the majority party Fine Gael is centre right and the country is not far behind Greece in needing help. The majority party in Portugal, also suffering is centre right to right. It's the Euro rather than any political party that is most to blame.

 

[crushing]

I know a man that worked for free at a bagel shop for several months. He did this to gain an understanding of the business and process of making bagels before he opened his own bagel shop in another town. I would seriously consider doing the same at a brewery.

 

[Dirty Dog4 2]

I don't think this is as uncommon as we might think.

In the SCUBA industry, the first professional certification most people receive is "divemaster". A divemaster assists an instructor during classes and leads groups on guided tours. The part that shocked me is that after they've done the divemaster class, people often pay for an internship. During this internship, they not only assist in classes, but spend a lot of time on such tasks as cleaning the boat and sweeping the floors in the shop. That's right. They pay their instructor to sweep the instructors shop. This is called "learning how to work in a dive shop".

I have considered becoming a dive instructor as a retirement job. But I can assure you I won't be doing a divemaster internship.

 

[Dirty Dog4 2]

I know a man that worked for free at a bagel shop for several months. He did this to gain an understanding of the business and process of making bagels before he opened his own bagel shop in another town. I would seriously consider doing the same at a brewery.

He didn't work free. He traded labor for training.

 

[crushing]

He didn't work free. He traded labor for training.

You are correct. I should have specified free of a salary or monetary wages.

 

[granfire]

That's got more to do with it than having a scoialist government I'm afraid, the Euro crisis is knocking governments of all political shades. Eire's government isn't socialist, the majority party Fine Gael is centre right and the country is not far behind Greece in needing help. The majority party in Portugal, also suffering is centre right to right. It's the Euro rather than any political party that is most to blame.

I think Angie would be upset if you called her socialist.

 

[Tez3]

I think Angie would be upset if you called her socialist.

I'm sure she would!

Spain has a conservative govenment, what will surprise people is that Sweden has a conservative government as does Denmark, France and the Netherlands. Funny that, you all thought they were socialist didn't you.

 

[Xue Sheng156 9]

That's got more to do with it than having a scoialist government I'm afraid, the Euro crisis is knocking governments of all political shades. Eire's government isn't socialist, the majority party Fine Gael is centre right and the country is not far behind Greece in needing help. The majority party in Portugal, also suffering is centre right to right. It's the Euro rather than any political party that is most to blame.

Which is why I said Euro Zone

I know that socialism has little or nothing to do with it. I was following the financial news (NPR) here in the US that has been discussing the Euro issues. For a while there it looked like Greece was going to leave or be forced out but I see they are still in. Also for a while there it sounded like things were solved, which I did not entirely believe. And now I see they are not

 

[Xue Sheng156 9]

I'm sure she would!

Spain has a conservative govenment, what will surprise people is that Sweden has a conservative government as does Denmark, France and the Netherlands. Funny that, you all thought they were socialist didn't you.

I honestly did not know what type of Government Sweden had but I did not think it was Socialist and I knew France and the Netherlands were not but I did not know what type of government Denmark had. I knew Norway was socialist and I thought Finland was but to be honest I don't really have anything for or against a socialist Government so...

 

[Xue Sheng156 9]

I know a man that worked for free at a bagel shop for several months. He did this to gain an understanding of the business and process of making bagels before he opened his own bagel shop in another town. I would seriously consider doing the same at a brewery.

I don't think this is as uncommon as we might think.

In the SCUBA industry, the first professional certification most people receive is "divemaster". A divemaster assists an instructor during classes and leads groups on guided tours. The part that shocked me is that after they've done the divemaster class, people often pay for an internship. During this internship, they not only assist in classes, but spend a lot of time on such tasks as cleaning the boat and sweeping the floors in the shop. That's right. They pay their instructor to sweep the instructors shop. This is called "learning how to work in a dive shop".

I have considered becoming a dive instructor as a retirement job. But I can assure you I won't be doing a divemaster internship.

Not the same thing. Potentially these are people who already have the job, who have been getting paid for the job, who need to live off of what they make at their job who are now potentialy going to not get paid for going to that job and or told they need to pay money to their employer to go to work at that job. They are not training for a job or tryig to get a Certification

Would you go to your current job if you were told you will not get paid this month and/or you have to pay your employer to go to work?

 

[Dirty Dog4 2]

Not the same thing. Potentially these are people who already have the job, who have been getting paid for the job, who need to live off of what they make at their job who are now potentialy going to not get paid for going to that job and or told they need to pay money to their employer to go to work at that job. They are not training for a job or tryig to get a Certification

Would you go to your current job if you were told you will not get paid this month and/or you have to pay your employer to go to work?

Are you kidding? Even getting paid, there are times when I wonder why I went in....

 

[Carol]

Not the same thing. Potentially these are people who already have the job, who have been getting paid for the job, who need to live off of what they make at their job who are now potentialy going to not get paid for going to that job and or told they need to pay money to their employer to go to work at that job. They are not training for a job or tryig to get a Certification

Would you go to your current job if you were told you will not get paid this month and/or you have to pay your employer to go to work?

Hell yeah I would.

Cobra notwithstanding, my neuro meds that keep me functioning are, no lie, over $1500 per month without insurance.

I've made a point of making sure I'm a person that's difficult to replace on the job. Not showing up runs counter to that philosophy. At my last job, I survived three rounds of layoffs, and when our company was bought, I was one of very few people who received a permanent job offer from the new corporate overlords.

My Android phone. I have one. I never see the bill, I have an unlimited data plan, and company policy permits personal use. Comes in handy when there's no money

Perhaps I couldn't afford to keep internet/tv/phone at home. So I ditch Comcast Triple Play and discretely get in as much as much job hunting as I can on the sly at work.

If I needed to train for another job I could do that much easier from the office where I can play with all kinds of expensive toys, than I can at home where I have no expensive toys.

Its just a month. Bank of America would need longer than that to kick me out of my home.

Its MUCH easier to find a job when you HAVE a job. Whether that is right, or fair, or not is another story...but its true.

And finally...crazy as it sounds, crazy as it is...I like my job, and I like what I do.

 

[RandomPhantom700]

Please remember that there's a difference between (1) paying for something in order to get, or stay, qualified for a job, and (2) actually working for free or paying your employer as part of your standard working relationship. Getting a degree, certification, prior experience/knowledge kinda falls under (1).