Trejo Kenpo style and Kenpo forms

[vilwy]

I'm interested in learning more about American Kenpo and Kajukembo. There's some masters with really good body mechanics.

I'm most curious about Frank Trejo's style of Kenpo. Since he was a boxer and shotokan guy is there some of this in his style?

 

[Stuarto]

I'm interested in learning more about American Kenpo and Kajukembo. There's some masters with really good body mechanics.

I'm most curious about Frank Trejo's style of Kenpo. Since he was a boxer and shotokan guy is there some of this in his style?

I'm unfamiliar with Trejo Kenpo but I would assume he took parts of shotokan and boxing, and incorporated it into his Kenpo. I train in Professor Nicholas Cerio's Kenpo and he put shotokan into his style. Like I said, I am not familiar but Kenpo often has a mix of different arts.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I'm unfamiliar with Trejo Kenpo but I would assume he took parts of shotokan and boxing, and incorporated it into his Kenpo. I train in Professor Nicholas Cerio's Kenpo and he put shotokan into his style. Like I said, I am not familiar but Kenpo often has a mix of different arts.

Hey Stuarto which lineage is your Kenpo?

 

[Stuarto]

Hey Stuarto which lineage is your Kenpo?

James Mitose - William Chow - Nicholas Cerio

The head of my school is Soke Paul Parent who was a student of Nicholas Cerio.

 

[Flying Crane]

East coast Kenpo. A different lineage back to Chow and Mitose than west coast Kenpo. Cerio and Parker knew each other but Cerio was not Parker’s student.

 

[Stuarto]

East coast Kenpo. A different lineage back to Chow and Mitose than west coast Kenpo. Cerio and Parker knew each other but Cerio was not Parker’s student.

Trejo is also East coast? That's also correct about Cerio and Parker. Professor Cerio never finished Ed Parkers Kenpo curriculum. He also referred to Ed Parker as his coach but not teacher.

 

[Flying Crane]

Trejo is also East coast? That's also correct about Cerio and Parker. Professor Cerio never finished Ed Parkers Kenpo curriculum. He also referred to Ed Parker as his coach but not teacher.

Trejo was west coast. He was a student of Parker at least somewhat. I believe he started under one of Parker’s other students.

 

[Flying Crane]

Trejo is also East coast? That's also correct about Cerio and Parker. Professor Cerio never finished Ed Parkers Kenpo curriculum. He also referred to Ed Parker as his coach but not teacher.

I’m not sure that Cerio ever studied Parker’s curriculum. I think he trained under Chow and then moved to New England. Somewhere along the way he worked with or got some guidance or coaching from Parker, but I don’t know if he actually studied Parker’s curriculum. I could be wrong about that, I don’t know these details very well.

 

[Stuarto]

I’m not sure that Cerio ever studied Parker’s curriculum. I think he trained under Chow and then moved to New England. Somewhere along the way he worked with or got some guidance or coaching from Parker, but I don’t know if he actually studied Parker’s curriculum. I could be wrong about that, I don’t know these details very well.

I was always under the impression that he trained to brown belt in Parker's system and then went on to form his NCK. He trained with Chow and helped spread Kenpo throughout New England. I think that George Pesare was actually his regular teacher. Not 100% sure on that

 

[vilwy]

AFAIK, Trejo was born in Hawaii and moved to California where he later met Ed Parker and started Kenpo training. I'm aware that, sadly, he's passed a few years ago.

..... Like I said, I am not familiar but Kenpo often has a mix of different arts.

This is precisely why I was asking about Frank Trejo's style. I'd like to mix different arts than stick to one style. Pick what works best for me. Shotokan and boxing makes for an interesting mix with Kenpo, I think.

 

[Stuarto]

I’m not sure that Cerio ever studied Parker’s curriculum. I think he trained under Chow and then moved to New England. Somewhere along the way he worked with or got some guidance or coaching from Parker, but I don’t know if he actually studied Parker’s curriculum. I could be wrong about that, I don’t know these details very well.

I was always under the impression that he trained to brown belt in Parker's system and then went on to form his NCK. He trained with Chow and helped spread Kenpo throughout New England. I think that George Pesare was actually his regular teacher. Not 100% sue

AFAIK, Trejo was born in Hawaii and moved to California where he later met Ed Parker and started Kenpo training. I'm aware that, sadly, he's passed a few years ago.



This is precisely why I was asking about Frank Trejo's style. I'd like to mix different arts than stick to one style. Pick what works best for me. Shotokan and boxing makes for an interesting mix with Kenpo, I think.

That's why I like Kenpo, because it's kind of a mixed bag. Some Kenpo schools even include jiu jitsu to help make them well rounded. I prefer to stay on my feet if possible, but it doesn't hurt to know a few things about ground fighting.

 

[Flying Crane]

AFAIK, Trejo was born in Hawaii and moved to California where he later met Ed Parker and started Kenpo training. I'm aware that, sadly, he's passed a few years ago.



This is precisely why I was asking about Frank Trejo's style. I'd like to mix different arts than stick to one style. Pick what works best for me. Shotokan and boxing makes for an interesting mix with Kenpo, I think.

I’m not sure if Trejo deliberately mixed boxing and shotokan with his Kenpo. I believe he had boxing and shotokan experience prior to training Kenpo, so there may have been some influence, but that is not the same thing as deliberately mixing them.

I don’t know much about him so I could be wrong about that.

The thing about mixing is that what gets mixed needs to be functional together. A martial method shouldn’t just be a grab-bag of techniques and tricks. There should be a unifying methodology upon which the techniques are built and function. For example, Shotokan and boxing have very different training methods for developing a punch. You don’t need multiple, different, punching methods. You need one consistent method so you don’t hesitate, and so your body responds automatically. Multiple methods divide your training time and make it harder to develop a functional punch.

So combining methods needs to be done carefully. It isn’t just adding techniques to your list, haphazardly. Some things could actually get in the way of each other.

 

[Stuarto]

I’m not sure if Trejo deliberately mixed boxing and shotokan with his Kenpo. I believe he had boxing and shotokan experience prior to training Kenpo, so there may have been some influence, but that is not the same thing as deliberately mixing them.

I don’t know much about him so I could be wrong about that.

The thing about mixing is that what gets mixed needs to be functional together. A martial method shouldn’t just be a grab-bag of techniques and tricks. There should be a unifying methodology upon which the techniques are built and function. For example, Shotokan and boxing have very different training methods for developing a punch. You don’t need multiple, different, punching methods. You need one consistent method so you don’t hesitate, and so your body responds automatically. Multiple methods divide your training time and make it harder to develop a functional punch.

So combining methods needs to be done carefully. It isn’t just adding techniques to your list, haphazardly. Some things could actually get in the way of each other.

That makes sense because you want to build that muscle memory.