OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Yeah but that is too big a bite of the problem to properly solve it.
Boxing is helped by hitting them and not letting them hit you.
Training half of martial arts bugs me.
- Thread starter drop bear
- Start date
Yeah but that is too big a bite of the problem to properly solve it.
Boxing is helped by hitting them and not letting them hit you.
Gweilo
Master Black Belt
Why would you say that? All these "to big a bite of a problem" can be solved by moving,, transitioning, whether its to a position of avoidance, or a positioning to strike, or from one technique to another.
Trial and error, or results based training. You have fallen hook line and sinker into the hype of a new craze, we have seen this, and most fallen for several times over the generations, Karate, judo, kung fu, ninjitsu, TKD, bjj, vale tudo, mma, not knocking any of these arts, but your in a rebranded, repackaged trend, that happens to of used modern tech, to the marketing advantage, not saying your training is useless (as you have to many), its just your train is red, mine is blue, but they are both going to different station,s in the same destination, yours sport, mine not.
OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
I could beat Mike Tyson by moving and transitioning. But that isn't going to make me able to beat Mike Tyson.
And my train is a real train. It is not a new craze. It is not a variation on a theme it is n not a bias, it is not marketing. It is a real provable trackball system.
My system actually exists. The performance of my instructors actually exists, the performance of the rest of my club actually exists. And it exists in that it does what it says it does. There is the ability to track my progress in my club against other members of my club. Who track their progress against members of other clubs.
My training is based on really real things.
Is yours? When have you last seen your instructor fight anybody who was any good? When have you fought anyone who is any good?
It is not the color of the train it is whether there is a train there at all.
Because most of these discussions is about conceptual train.
My coach doing a real thing.
Me in the background doing a real thing.
Me in the background again doing real things dressed up like santa clause in a room full of real people doing real things.
Other students doing real things.
Last edited:
Gweilo
Master Black Belt
Sort of says it all.
Ok whats your professional fight record, I could give you mine, but have no proof, as it was unliscensed fights, means jack I know, but 8-0 with 8 stoppages, not many granted, but this was before mma, and in barns, working mens clubs, and pub car parks, with straw bales as the ring. Or your ameteur fight record, who have you beat that is of note?
Your answer is probably nobody we have heard of, like mine, but £1000 says, you couldnt hit a cows butt with a banjo, and I could arm bar you in 5 mins, but will never know, seeing as you live approx 4000 miles away
OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Real people from other clubs training in our club. And you know what they were training?
Yep. Real things.
Gweilo
Master Black Belt
Cuddling each other
OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
You don't understand that if I moved and transitioned correctly I could win fights all the time. If they punch me I just move out of the way.
The concept to winning fights is actually pretty simple.
Unfortunately the application is where the time effort and money goes.
Which is my point.
OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Combat cuddles.
OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
No that is Rob grufridda.
OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Nope. But i train with guys who have one.
Which is why I don't teach because I don't believe in teaching something that I basically haven't done.
And this is Important because it works because it works. Isn't it works because I am awesome.
I basically set the bar that my system actually exists. And I think I have met that
And you raised that bar to a professional fight record and then did not see the need to meet that yourself.
While not even meeting my bar.
Why does your argument make any sense?
Like what point were you trying to make with it?
OP
OP
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
So now you have raised the bar again?
From pro fighter to pro fighter with a perfect record.
Even though you couldn't meet mine.
I mean I get it if we raise the bar high enough nobody meets that standard.
But that doesn't justify having no standards.
Gweilo
Master Black Belt
So this is like your quotes, teacher says, so must be true, but teacher is talking horse dooey, you have no fights, you have just been listening to teacher, and the big boys talk, all that talk about demanding proof, and you have no evidence of your progression, the so say evidence of proof you demand from others, go figure
Gweilo
Master Black Belt
I have trained with guys who have 5th and 8th dans, but in your words, i am wasting my time, as I have no evidence
Similar threads
- superdave
- General Martial Arts Talk
