Errant please I have done the instructor course twice and have trained there as well. Sure do they have minimal standerds YES and they are minimal at best. They have no way of telling you me or anyone else if there KKW certificate are with qualift people.
Which makes me wonder why anyone would associate themselves with this organization?
You know this and as well if you have been part of the KKW for any length you know they teach SD principle, here is a
LINK to there own website showing some SD moves.
I know you know this but there it is for everybody else.
That's not self-defense. That's dead, static training that will get you killed. Without getting into the notion of step-sparring being next to worthless for alive combat, let's just take the bayonet defense that you offered. For starters, the concept of range is completely ignored. The defender would have virtually no chance of dealing with a bayonet attack at that range. He is far too close. Unless is THAT good, he wouldn't be able to tell where his attacker is going to stick that bayonet until it is far too late. Ignoring that, let's say he actually manages to get around his opponent and achieve the arm bar in shoulder 2. This is possibly the only good thing in this sequence, re: position and control, and even that is not great. Still, there are options from this position, and achieving the position itself is possible. However, our "Master", who has likely never drilled this technique in an alive manner, reliquishes control of his opponent to do what? DROP AN ELBOW TO THE SPINE. This technique has been proven time and time again to be a low percentage techinque for several reasons. One, you have to be able to generate sufficient penetrative force for it to work. In the photo of this technique, the Master is leaning over, and his hips are not noticably lower than before. There would not be enough force in that technique to stop an opponent. Secondly, you must hit an opponent at the correct spot in his spine in order to drop him. The likelihood of doing that against a live, resisting opponent decreases. Thus why this defense has been almost completely discarded in live competition (it is still completely legal in MMA competition).
Let's review the second issue with the elbow to the spine. After moving outside the attack and securing control of your attacker's arm AND WEAPON, why in Buddha's name would you release control of that weapon in order to perform a low percentage technique like a drop elbow? If you've got your opponent's arm locked, sweep his leg out and face plant him in the ground. From there, strip him of his weapon and either A) use his weapon to hold him there until back-up/police/authorities come to apprehend him, or B) battlefield; put a round in his skull and then turn his rifle on his squad mates. Look at it closely. You are using TWO arms to control his weapon. Almost every SD teacher I have had who has seen combat has said that this is the only practical way to go re: weapons defense. If, in this example, the Master removes his right arm in order drop that elbow strike, he is only controlling the weapon & his opponent with a left hand wrist grab. The second that right hand is removed, any pressure on the opponent's shoulder and elbow is instantly relieved, and the opponent can (and likely will) escape from the Master's hold, just by flowing with the new lack of resistance to his motion.
The second Bayonet gyorugi is slightly better, but includes no end game strategies.
Don't like my analysis of this example? Get StuartA to take a look at it.
If this is Kukki TKD self-defense, skip it and take up JKD or even Krav Maga.
If that is the Kukkiwon's standard of self-defense training, then the Kukkiwon is worthless, re: self-defense training.
This is my point.
If the Kukkiwon is the rank certification of Kukki Taekwondo, and what they offer is WORTHLESS as far as self-defense skills, turning around and saying that there is self-defense in Kukki Taekwondo, just not "OFFICIAL" self-defense is MEANINGLESS.
If there are individual masters out there who offer reliable, practical self-defense training under the banner of the Kukkiwon, then that's great. However, I am not going to recommend that anyone study Kukki Taekwondo for self-defense purposes just on the off-chance they MAY find that master.
Outliers do not define a system.
Where are all these great TKD masters with these comprehensive, capable combative systems?
Show me.
Seriously. I want to see it. I want to believe that TKD works.
If the above is a representation of TKD self-defense skills, then I feel completely justified in leaving Kukki TKD for good.
. I agree with you that people must actually *see* and *feel* real TKD to gain an appreciation of what it is all about. As far as schools, there is a certain compromise that comes with living in a capitalist society, and I figure that the same applies for commercial schools. I have personally been against the idea of commercializing the martial arts, but hey, even that has its own benefits (such as raising awareness about martial arts in general), so there is good and bad to that, as well. I will always choose a garage dojo over a commercial school, but that is merely my own taste. The arts have not stopped evolving. They haven't always been this way and they will certainly be different in the future. My hope is that it is for the better.
