Tito Ortiz Vs. Demetrious Johnson

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

Match 5 of the MT MMA Tournament. If anyone is confused about the way it works, here is the link explaining the boxing tournament, the rules are the same just a different sport.

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The match is Tito Ortiz Vs. Demetrious Johnson
Have your say: Tito Ortiz Vs. Demetrious Johnson

 

[Headhunter]

DJ no doubt. The most well rounded guy in all of mma can ko you or submit you or go the distance at a high pace and a genuine nice and humble guy whereas Tito was an arrogant jerk who was terrified to fight chuck Liddell and he's the reason we have all this interim title rubbish these days he's the one that started it

 

[Martial D]

Um, what's the catch-weight here?

Cause demitrius would fit in ortiz' pocket.

 

[Headhunter]

Um, what's the catch-weight here?

Cause demitrius would fit in ortiz' pocket.

This has nothing to do with weight classes

 

[Martial D]

Oh really? So for the purposes of these threads we are supposed to imagine everyone is the same size?

Cause a guy that walks around at 130 pounds gets manhandled by a 230 pounder 99/100 times. DJ would get squished.

 

[Headhunter]

Oh really? So for the purposes of these threads we are supposed to imagine everyone is the same size?

Cause a guy that walks around at 130 pounds gets manhandled by a 230 pounder 99/100 times. DJ would get squished.

Okay buddy take a deep breath and don't take it so seriously

 

[Martial D]

I guess anything more than a sentence is taking it too seriously? LOL

This is a what if thread. I don't see why size isn't a factor when speculating about a fight. In fact, it's a huge factor.

 

[CB Jones]

I guess anything more than a sentence is taking it too seriously? LOL

This is a what if thread. I don't see why size isn't a factor when speculating about a fight. In fact, it's a huge factor.

I see the tournament as selecting who was a better fighter......not who would win in an actual fight.

 

[CB Jones]

Too me Johnson is a much better fighter.....Johnson easy.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

I guess anything more than a sentence is taking it too seriously? LOL

This is a what if thread. I don't see why size isn't a factor when speculating about a fight. In fact, it's a huge factor.

Essentially what CB stated. Read the first post of the link in this thread (or any of the x vs x threads), specifies that it's not just weight. Otherwise it would be pretty boring.

 

[Anarax]

DJ

 

[Headhunter]

Too me Johnson is a much better fighter.....Johnson easy.

Without question. Tito was a decent wrestler that's it. The rest of his game was average at best and he frankly couldn't take a shot. When he got hit he crumbled simple as that. He never got knocked out cold he just always took a few then went down in the fetal position similar to lesnar. DJ has very rarely been in trouble in a fight

 

[Martial D]

Well if it's a matter of skill it's a no brainier. All other things equal they aren't even in the same league skill wise.

Tito was always a one trick pony.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

Honestly skill wise I can't think of anyone who could compete with him. His weight is a shame, if he was a higher class, he would be much more famous than he is.

 

[drop bear]

I guess anything more than a sentence is taking it too seriously? LOL

This is a what if thread. I don't see why size isn't a factor when speculating about a fight. In fact, it's a huge factor.

Even with the size difference I think that one could go either way.

 

[Tames D]

Honestly skill wise I can't think of anyone who could compete with him.

I can think of two...
Dominick Cruz
Brad Pickett

 

[Headhunter]

I can think of two...
Dominick Cruz
Brad Pickett

He'd destroy Pickett in a rematch. At the time he was working full time along with fighting

 

[Tames D]

He'd destroy Pickett in a rematch. At the time he was working full time along with fighting

I guess that excuse is as good as any.

 

[Reedone816]

DJ, the skill disparity too big.

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[Steve]

I guess that excuse is as good as any.

LOL. Wait. You're suggesting Pickett would beat DJ now? He's 6-10 since that fight.

I think DJ, but as others have noted, it's not a given considering the size disparity. DJ is one of the most technically skilled fighters ever, but he's a little guy. would be an interesting test for the skill vs size discussions around here, though, if this were ever to really happen.