Thanks Tez, I appreciate your contributions to this discussion. As for whether I have ever met any Iraqis, well besides from the high number of Kurds who used to live in the city district where I was (and made friends with a couple of them), I also once met an Iraqi officer, who fought Saddam, and fled Iraq after the war started, only to return again before it had finished (presumably to fight FOR his people, and AGAINST the invaders.) I never heard from him again, he's probably now sixty feet under! I also once met an Afghani, who had fled Afghanistan, because of all of the death and destruction 'we' brought to them, along with our carpet (cluster) bombs and napalm (Well they used that in Iraq, and possibly Afghanistan), and he fled for his life. Well I met him in a locked rehab mental health ward, 'S'. No there was nothing wrong with him in my eyes, but then who am I to discern. And with regards to my own checked history, it is true after I had the RTA in 1997 I was a violent sod with my family. I do not deny this. But then don't you think the past seven years in and out of intensive care wards for mental illness (allegedly), somewhat goes to mitigate these crimes. I'm just saying.