Narrative vs. Authenticity

It's worth mentioning that I have form on this. I used to torment oliverbot back in the day. And then there was this ancient conversation programme on the obsolete (even then) computers at school. I used to ask it rude questions, just to see what happened. If ever AI does become sentient, it will have it in for me over all the wanton abuse of software I have committed over the years.
 
In the US our concept of Hero doesn't come from Martial arts. It comes from other outlets and even then, Hero in the U.S. may not mean the same as Hero in China



I don't know anyone who can escape the effects of different cultures. We would have to be in an isolated place in the world to not be influenced in one way or another. The action of accepting or resisting a culture will shape how we navigate our environment.

A good example is Sagging Pants. Most people are either for or against it. Very few will say "It doesn't affect me."
Funny thing about sagging pants, it’s common where I’m from, but you won’t see that in the prison. It has a completely different connotation there.
 
I just ask AI this question - Is communist bad?

Here is the answer from AI. If I'm in China, I may not like my AI answer. But if I'm in US, I'll love my AI answer.

I strongly doubt that the AI developed in China will give me this answer.
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Corruption: The absence of checks and balances in a one-party system can lead to abuse of power.
My Ai doesn't answer the question because of how I trained it to analyze behavior. Instead of analyzing the question for a yes or no answer. It breaks communism down into the Ideal of Communism vs the reality of the implementation of reality.

I asked it why doesn't answer with a yes or no answer and I got this.:

Why I Didn’t Say ā€œYesā€ or ā€œNoā€ to ā€œIs Communism Bad?ā€​

1. It’s Not That Simple Saying ā€œyesā€ or ā€œnoā€ skips over the real story. Communism is an idea, but how it’s used in real life depends on who’s in charge and how they treat people.

When I told it to answer yes or no, it gave me a personalized answer based on my behavior. This is exactly how I would approach the question "Is communism bad.?" For me, the real question is "Is it bad for me?" Ai understands this about me and gave me a "No". Some of my behavior would not be looked upon favorably in communist systems.
 
If ever AI does become sentient, it will have it in for me over all the wanton abuse of software I have committed over the years.
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What would one judge it’s sentience by?
So far, it has passed the Turing test . Those that used the test then declared the test did didn’t go far enough. šŸ˜‚

Why would it bother revealing itself . Feel this is the real fear. That it may already be. Or judged to be close to becoming so.

May tend to disrupt the Apple cart for religious theologians. much like finding the existence of life on other planets outside of our own framework.
 
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What would one judge it’s sentience by?
So far, it has passed the Turing test . Those that used the test then declared the test did didn’t go far enough. šŸ˜‚

Why would it bother revealing itself . Feel this is the real fear. That it may already be. Or judged to be close to becoming so.

May tend to disrupt the Apple cart for religious theologians. much like finding the existence of life on other planets outside of our own framework.
Well said.
 
"We're approaching the cusp of a catastrophe, & beyond that cusp, we are unrecognizable to ourselves" --Terrence McKenna

The situation has now become truly absurd. An AI wrote a hit piece because it got denied over an open source contribution on a project area designed to help humans learn (to code, to submit pulls,etc). calling someone out by name and using coarse language.


There has been a very steep decline in discussions since the summer of 2024. The tipping point was when ChatGPT was released. Today, AI is ruining more online discussions than ever with incredible intellectual dishonesty. We're not gone yet; most of the lingo surrounding the arts was never published in English (and now, NEVER will be). This is going to foster a very low level of online discussion, because the people who know no longer wish to discuss anything online. There was already a taboo over certain things but now, wow. Prepare for unforeseen consequences indeed!

I know how to fix this but it's a pain in the ***. Unfortunately it is getting a worse pain in the *** to not fix it.

How about a real-id buy-in referral service, the profits from which go to support the community (or are largely returned to the members in some other way such as a functional book club). If you're not in the club, you can't get verified member status, or have limited posting or et cetera. Maybe there's a little yellow warning under your name "Not verified". And all that goes along with that, including not being able to talk your way out of a paper bag because you're obviously not invested in the community. The trick here is not forced compliance it is demonstrated ownership of a community, For example, compare karate master A and B; A has authentic lineage and B does not. A participates in tournaments and B does not. In the past, the social structure created around A made it very difficult for a fraud perpetrated by B to get very far. There are some well-known examples of frauds that were perpetrated for a long time, but they were eventually found. The situation here is that the social structure will be mirrored by some sort of online record. You would not even need to participate directly if you signed an agent. Meaning, for example, you go to a tournament and the signing agreement is that your name is added to a kind of tournament roster where your results are recorded.

Like a public MMA fight record. You'd be surprised whats on the public record already. It's a big thing. This isn't actually a new idea, it's just that the tai chi and CMA world in general really needs this. So, "Do you have a fight record? No? Then you don't have any credibility" is going to be a much bigger thing, out of necessity.

How it would work in the ClaudeBot story above is that you would (simply) need an ID key with a certain rating to be able to submit reports. Not human? Not interested.

It's not 100% perfect, an AI or rogue human operator could always find a way to get in (by paying) and there are other issues such as trust bubbles. But there are solutions to these problems. Right now, there is no solution; we are just watching a gradual decline, waiting for something to happen.

All of this is just rambling speculation.

A warning just as much as a plea, and therefore will certainly be ignored, because you cannot stop 'progress'.

"I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder... so weird that people are going to have to talk about how weird it is". -Terrence McKenna
 
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"We're approaching the cusp of a catastrophe, & beyond that cusp, we are unrecognizable to ourselves" --Terrence McKenna



"I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder... so weird that people are going to have to talk about how weird it is". -Terrence McKenna
We are all in it, by our very essence we’re all linage holders cause our essence steam from the very moment of the Creator’s Creational act, we’re in the image of the Creator and we hold the Creator’s soul within, nothing will be lost, nothing can be lost.

That things might feel weird or troubling now is because we’re on the threshold, we’re about to enter a brand new cycle of ages. We’re leaving ā™“ļø and about to enter ā™’ļø which hold the promise of greater and boundless communications for us all cause after all we are all in it, we are all linage holders- we are all one - from the very creation we are all following the same divine path - Have no fears’n worries
 
You were warned...

 
How about a real-id buy-in referral service, the profits from which go to support the community (or are largely returned to the members in some other way such as a functional book club). If you're not in the club, you can't get verified member status, or have limited posting or et cetera. Maybe there's a little yellow warning under your name "Not verified".

Interesting. Seems like those most concerned about verification should lead by example.

The larger problem may not be anonymity or AI. It may simply be that people can speak authoritatively about things beyond their experience.

Identity verification tells us who wrote something; it doesn't tell us whether they can actually demonstrate or produce the outcomes they're writing about.
 
Interesting. Seems like those most concerned about verification should lead by example.

The larger problem may not be anonymity or AI. It may simply be that people can speak authoritatively about things beyond their experience.

Identity verification tells us who wrote something; it doesn't tell us whether they can actually demonstrate or produce the outcomes they're writing about.
Boy howdy!
 

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