Speed Vs Power

That's a point- I know very little about guns, but aren't SMG rounds usually subsonic?

Not that it matters, at this point the horse is being picked at by hyenas, yet we continue to flog it
 
I see the Uzi vs 270 as more of a speed vs timing thing. I can get more punches off not necessarily being faster, but just launching them with less of a gap of time in between. Sooner rather than faster.
 
Badhabits said:
I see the Uzi vs 270 as more of a speed vs timing thing. I can get more punches off not necessarily being faster, but just launching them with less of a gap of time in between. Sooner rather than faster.
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With an Uzi you get more shots per minute, but with a 270 the bullets go faster when they exit the muzzle.

By the same token you can throw punches in rapid succession so that you throw the most punches per minute, or you can throw punches so that your hands reach higher maximum speeds, but that you get off less punches per minute because there's more time in between the punches.

It depends on what you define as "fast."
 
After seeing a Raymond Daniels video and someone saying speed without power, I don't know what to think of this thread. His highlight KOs are legendary and a lot of them happened in sport karate as well.

When I think of speed vs power I think of beginners who try their best to land power hits but in doing so either telegraph badly as they are so tense or winding up that it is obvious. I try to focus on speed and timing. But then again everyone's fight style and body composition needs to be weighed in the equation.
 
Kung Fu Wang said:
Power = compress and release

It takes time to have a full compressing with the whole-body unification. When you compress halfway and release for speed, you will only generate 50% power.

If you watch these 2 "power generation" videos, a punch take about 1 second to complete. In combat, 1 second can be too long.




If you watch these 2 "speed generation" videos, a punch take less than 1/4 second. But those punches may not have enough knock down power because a punch is not fully compressed.


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With these videos you have to clarify what kind of speed you're talking about in order for people to know what you mean by speed. Do you mean speed as in how many punches you can throw per minute or speed as in how fast your hand goes in MPH?
 
PhotonGuy said:
Do you mean speed as in how many punches you can throw per minute or speed as in how fast your hand goes in MPH?
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If you can throw

- 2 punches within 1 second, your single punch speed is 1/2 second.
- 4 punches within 1 second, your single punch speed is 1/4 second.

So, single punching speed affect multiple punching speed. Since it's difficult to record single punching speed, usually, people measure how many punches that you can throw per second.

One day a guy challenged praying mantis master Brendan Lai. Brendan said, "I'll just throw 1 punch at you. If you can block my punch, you win, otherwise you lose". The guy failed to block Brendan's punch and left.

I like this kind of civilized challenge. A challenge doesn't have to hurt your opponent. Speed challenge is one of those civilized challenge.
 
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Kung Fu Wang said:
If you can throw

- 2 punches within 1 second, your single punch speed is 1/2 second.
- 4 punches within 1 second, your single punch speed is 1/4 second.

So, single punching speed affect multiple punching speed. Since it's difficult to record single punching speed, usually, people measure how many punches that you can throw per second.
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But there are other factors that have to be accounted for. For instance you have to specify what kind of punches we're talking about. With some punches your hand travels a very short distance as opposed to other punches where your hand covers a longer distance. The less distance you have to cover the more punches you will be able to throw per second. You will most likely be able to throw more lead hand jabs per second than rear hand straight punches as your hand has to cover a greater distance with the rear hand straight punch, but that does not mean your hand moves at a higher speed in MPH when throwing the lead hand jab as opposed to the rear hand straight punch.

Also somebody with shorter arms might be able to throw more punches per second because with shorter arms their hands will have to cover less distance to complete the punch as opposed to somebody with longer arms, but that also does not mean that the hands of somebody with shorter arms are going to be moving faster in MPH than the hands of somebody with longer arms.

You also have to take into account the time in between punches. With shorter intervals in between punches you will obviously be able to throw more punches in a given amount of time but that again is different than how fast your hand moves in MPH.

So it depends on what kind of speed we're talking about.
Kung Fu Wang said:
One day a guy challenged praying mantis master Brendan Lai. Brendan said, "I'll just throw 1 punch at you. If you can block my punch, you win, otherwise you lose". The guy failed to block Brendan's punch and left.

I like this kind of civilized challenge. A challenge doesn't have to hurt your opponent. Speed challenge is one of those civilized challenge.
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Well there is more to it than just speed with being able to block somebody's punch, there is also technique, timing, strategy, and so forth.
 
PhotonGuy said:
But there are other factors that have to be accounted for. For instance you have to specify what kind of punches we're talking about. With some punches your hand travels a very short distance as opposed to other punches where your hand covers a longer distance. The less distance you have to cover the more punches you will be able to throw per second. You will most likely be able to throw more lead hand jabs per second than rear hand straight punches as your hand has to cover a greater distance with the rear hand straight punch, but that does not mean your hand moves at a higher speed in MPH when throwing the lead hand jab as opposed to the rear hand straight punch.

Also somebody with shorter arms might be able to throw more punches per second because with shorter arms their hands will have to cover less distance to complete the punch as opposed to somebody with longer arms, but that also does not mean that the hands of somebody with shorter arms are going to be moving faster in MPH than the hands of somebody with longer arms.

You also have to take into account the time in between punches. With shorter intervals in between punches you will obviously be able to throw more punches in a given amount of time but that again is different than how fast your hand moves in MPH.

So it depends on what kind of speed we're talking about.

Well there is more to it than just speed with being able to block somebody's punch, there is also technique, timing, strategy, and so forth.
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But, but, but....
 
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