Dark Gift Concepts
Orange Belt
thank you very much for the welcome and the tips
P.U.R.E Progressive Uninterrupted Rapid Execution
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thank you very much for the welcome and the tips
Dark Gift Concepts
Orange Belt
Bro thank you so much for chiming in. I look forward to seeing you soon.
I train in Kenpo, as well as Arnis and BJJ. If someone asked me what any of those arts were like, I'd tell them, if they were interested and perhaps wanted to train in them. I've gone so far at times, as to actually give a little 'demo' for lack of better words, so the person could actually see some of the art. And yes, of course, if they were really interested in training, I'd invite them to a class.
If I simply said something that gave little info. its probably a no brainer that the person would ask me more questions. If I replied with the same response, people would most likely begin to reply much like what we have already seen in this thread.
I don't think that asking how your system differs from another JKD school, a Kajukenbo school, etc. is asking to much. If someone told me that they had a better method of doing something, of course I'm going to be curious and ask...I think others would do the same. If I was looking to paint the walls of my house, and I brought 2 different kinds of paint to the counter, I'd hope the guy wouldn't keep a secret and not tell me what paint would be best.
As for saying something is crap, well, looking at my few posts I've made, I have said nothing like that. I've asked legit, sincere questions.
So, in closing, likewise, if you don't want to explain your art to people you don't know from Adam, do you expect someone to travel to see you, if they don't know you from Adam, and if you're not willing to go into any detail about what you teach and how it differs from another art? If I walk into a school for the first time, because I see something I like, you can bet I'm going to ask the teacher a bunch of questions. I would hope in return I'd get sincere answers.
Dark Gift Concepts
Orange Belt
Yes. Now Gentlemen if you would like to train you are more than welcome. I hope you all have a great day and a nice journey. Maybe we will one day train.
Uh... my TKD master (and when I say "master" I mean VII Dan) not only trains us in grappling, but brings in a BJJ instructor periodically to ensure we're doing things correctly.
Plenty of people on MT cross-train in multiple arts; I still have yet to see anything that shows why the two of you think this concept is different. If you'd like to say, that'd be great - but as others have said, the vague intimations of "we're better... but you'll have to come see us to know why" doesn't really inform, especially as members of this forum post from all over the globe, making "dropping in" somewhat difficult.
Well, I think you're preaching to the choir on this one. Speaking for myself only, but not only have I said that people should think outside of the box, I, as well as a number of people that I train with, do the same. Pretty much everyone that I work with crosstrains in something.
Fair enough, I will say that we were drawn in, however, once the questions started, no answers were received. As I said, if I walk into a school, yes, I'm going to ask questions of the teacher. If I'm not getting solid answers or red flags are raised, I'm walking out...plain and simple!
Mike
Dark Gift Concepts
Orange Belt
Actually if you all took the time to truley read the post you would have seen that I stated that I will be posting video on YouTube soon! If you cannot wait for it I cannot do anything to help with your patience . Again allow me the time to finish the video and I will post to keep you up to date, thank you all for your interest in Dark Gift Concepts and P.U.R.E I look forward to being able to answer all your question as soon as the video is completed.
Hey there Dark Gift Concepts
I think you are missing a trick here by your coyness, no? Are forums and the internet not a great place to network and build up your initial contacts? It seems that if people here (MJS's posts) show sufficient interest to ask deeper questions of your system and you beat them with a stick and tell them to piss off, then I would suggest a day course in networking and marketing might be worthwhile?
I think people around martial arts are a little sceptical of new systems though that does not preclude their interest. And but you will know as a martial artist yourself, we all like our empirically proven techniques, yes? So if your system is good, then it will stand up to a few little simple questions, no? And if your system cannot stand up to a few simple little questions then what does that mean? I do wish you luck though, sincerely
I am not being facetious or anything and but your motto "Si vis pacem, para bellum"?? should maybe be tempered here on internet forums so you may propagate your teaching further. For the sake of your marketing, maybe you should adopt in your head while you are typing the "si vis pacem, para pactum" instead
Yr most obdt hmble srvt,
Jenna
I think you are missing a trick here by your coyness, no? Are forums and the internet not a great place to network and build up your initial contacts? It seems that if people here (MJS's posts) show sufficient interest to ask deeper questions of your system and you beat them with a stick and tell them to piss off, then I would suggest a day course in networking and marketing might be worthwhile?
I think people around martial arts are a little sceptical of new systems though that does not preclude their interest. And but you will know as a martial artist yourself, we all like our empirically proven techniques, yes? So if your system is good, then it will stand up to a few little simple questions, no? And if your system cannot stand up to a few simple little questions then what does that mean? I do wish you luck though, sincerely
I am not being facetious or anything and but your motto "Si vis pacem, para bellum"?? should maybe be tempered here on internet forums so you may propagate your teaching further. For the sake of your marketing, maybe you should adopt in your head while you are typing the "si vis pacem, para pactum" instead
Yr most obdt hmble srvt,
Jenna
D.G.C.F.S.
Yellow Belt
Hi Ok I am not sure IF you are asking ME to show you Gentlemen and Ladies, Who I am or who he is?
But Here
http://www.darkgiftcombat.com
Thank you for a nice conversation
I *bow* with respect
But Here
http://www.darkgiftcombat.com
Thank you for a nice conversation
I *bow* with respect
Thanks for the link. At least now this gives a bit more to go on.
As for your question...I was just looking to find out more about the system. I was simply looking to have things explained, some details, how the training is done, etc. Again, thank you for the link. I'll spend some time looking thru things.
Mike
Dark Gift Concepts
Orange Belt
Thanks for the link. At least now this gives a bit more to go on.
As for your question...I was just looking to find out more about the system. I was simply looking to have things explained, some details, how the training is done, etc. Again, thank you for the link. I'll spend some time looking thru things.
Mike
Here is my link as well www.DarkGiftConcepts.com please do look at Mr.Traylors site as I trained him back in the day. I want to present the info in video form which will be done thru YouTube. Thank you for your patience and hopeful understanding.
Ah - thank you. Now I'm certain I've seen these before. I appreciate it; good luck. :asian:
I'll be watching for the youtube vid - will you be posting a link here? BTW - you do know your website only shows the eye art and no info, right? (just so you know).
Dark Gift Concepts
Orange Belt
Click on the eye on the link below it to take you in. But here is the other link hope it helps and yes I will post on here if I can figure this hole posting a video thing..lolhttp://darkgiftconcepts.com/home.html
Nobody's asked you to give away what you've developed. But what you've posted wouldn't even get you in the door if you were trying to interest a police academy or business in bringing you in to teach their people. It amounts to "it's my own take based on my own minimally described experiences; just take my word on it."
I'm going to take a liberty here. Check out Brian R. Vancise's website for IRT; you'll find it under Contact Information if you follow that link. You can't learn IRT from the page -- but you definitely can learn enough about it to decide if it's worth your time to either visit or bring him to you. You can learn what's influenced him, get some idea of his background, and more. It's enough to let you decide whether you want to seek him out or not... I could dig up a few more, but Brian's was handy.
What have you done with the methodology that's so different? Look at Peyton Quinn's program at Rocky Mountain Combat Applications Training; any question about his methods? But is there enough there to duplicate them successfully yourself, without his guidance? I don't think so.
So... how about stepping up and actually discussing something a little, instead of simply saying "you gotta see it to understand." You do realize that attitude is often a hallmark of many of the less scrupulous instructors? Along with vague intimations about teaching various groups...
No Video's or pics, no explanation, this reminds me of other poster trying to lure want abees into a program that may or may not work. Remember the burden of proof is on you in a Forum decussion, we have nothing to gain from a pic of an eye and come train when you know alot of folks are nowhere close to you. I will stop by on my way to california later this year but I figure you will be close or just do not have the time to show anything. I know I can explain what we do and how the application are different from other schools. Maybe yours is so complex that it is impossible to explain and that is why video is great.
What happened to your wife and how did she save herself?
I'm looking forward to the youtube video.
I'd be interested to hear what systems these different areas are based on. Thanks!
still learning
Senior Master
Hello, Is this related to speed hitting? 18 times in a second?
Pure progressive uninterrupted rapid excecution of muliple strikes......Isn't this what is taught in most martial art schools?
Like swimming....most of use a pure progressive uninterrupted rapid excecutions of our hands,arms and legs.....breathing.....or just one stroke...for some folks?
Is dancing a P.U.R.E and most things in life? .....
IS this something NEW? (PURE) ..........UM...If it is? ....did we miss something in our training?
Aloha, Just my interrupted slow excecution of thoughts......?
Pure progressive uninterrupted rapid excecution of muliple strikes......Isn't this what is taught in most martial art schools?
Like swimming....most of use a pure progressive uninterrupted rapid excecutions of our hands,arms and legs.....breathing.....or just one stroke...for some folks?
Is dancing a P.U.R.E and most things in life? .....
IS this something NEW? (PURE) ..........UM...If it is? ....did we miss something in our training?
Aloha, Just my interrupted slow excecution of thoughts......?
