New school challenged?
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Not in this day and age. but bacl in the early years GOD yes.....
Definitely old school. Born out of days gone by, when checks and balances were in place. Good or bad, it was the norm that kept everyone honest.
It still does happen, but not quite with the fanfare of the yesteryear.
I know first hand of a BJJ school locally that just helped a young buck see the error of his ways. Very quietly, very discreetly but it was met & quashed.
I can think of a distant kung fu uncle that a few years back had an all out brawl in his school. A few years is say within the past 10 or so.
In today's society, litigation rules the roost & those things don't happen due to that (litigation) and the chance that somebody can't accept a good ol' fashion *** kickin and would be apt to pull a gun. For the most part, it's much better that they don't.
You're right though... the honesty of the MA school would quickly return if they did occur more frequently.
I know first hand of a BJJ school locally that just helped a young buck see the error of his ways. Very quietly, very discreetly but it was met & quashed.
I can think of a distant kung fu uncle that a few years back had an all out brawl in his school. A few years is say within the past 10 or so.
In today's society, litigation rules the roost & those things don't happen due to that (litigation) and the chance that somebody can't accept a good ol' fashion *** kickin and would be apt to pull a gun. For the most part, it's much better that they don't.
You're right though... the honesty of the MA school would quickly return if they did occur more frequently.
Thems Fighting Words
Green Belt
Challenges are a good way to maintain standards regardless of style. Of course some challenges have nothing to do with keeping up standards and everything to do with bully business practices.
grydth
Senior Master
From the stories I have run across, you're right. One type involves rival masters settling their differences, be they strength of styles or issues over training Westerners, in a park man to man. A second type involves outright frauds getting a visit from experts who offer to show them how the art is really done. A rapid departure of the fake would occur. But the third type has nothing to do with honor, integrity of the arts or public benefit.... here a group of thugs would visit any new school that opened. This was simply using violence to maintain a business monopoly, and if in the modern era this would bring them lawsuits or a slug in the guts, well perhaps in some ways we are better off now than in the good old days.
jim777
Master Black Belt
Often, the good old days were anything but.
Same for me. I have not seen or been involved in one for many years. They usually did not get to crazy but, some have.
Are you talking about the Chicago dojo wars? I did not realize that Denver had them also.
Yep. Denver had them, too.
miguksaram
Master of Arts
Yes. If his teachings are solid then there is no reason not to continue your studies just because he lost a fight. There is always someone better out there in the world. Now if he was claiming to be the "end all be all" ultimate fighter that no one could defeat...then yes...I would be out of there.
If he was claiming that...i wouldn't train with him in the first place
Bottom line, if my instructor lost a fight, no reason to not traing with him, unless what he teaches is rubbish. Losing cause you got caught, cause the otehr guy was faster/fitter/stronger/younger,etc...doesn't neagte the wuality of the material.
Peace,
Erik
Define "butt-kicked".
Royce Gracie got completely pwned by Matt Hughes.
I could still learn a lot from Royce Gracie.
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Well basically here is the scenario. New Tkd master arrives in town and challenges the only other tkd school master because he thinks he can do a better job. Scheduled full contact match with basic rules. Everyone has time to prepare. The winning master invites any willing student to come learn with the best.
