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JowGaWolf

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they have," concluded "it as they finished 4 years early, so yes, concluded but not complete. the regulators have given them a pass on the long term safety testing,,,, not adequate
They will still "test" the vaccine while it's being used. The only difference is that the test subjects will be the one's getting the vaccine as citizens and not test subjects. By this time next year we the companies should have a good idea of what the 1 year effects are if any

Unfortunately there is a lot of bad information about the Vaccines. But I'll keep watching and see side effects in "real time"
 

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They will still "test" the vaccine while it's being used. The only difference is that the test subjects will be the one's getting the vaccine as citizens and not test subjects. By this time next year we the companies should have a good idea of what the 1 year effects are if any

Unfortunately there is a lot of bad information about the Vaccines. But I'll keep watching and see side effects in "real time"
That's what phase four testing is. @jobo is just swinging in the dark.
 

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well what clear is they normally do long term test, and they havent. that why its not taken a decade or so to test

which was my original point, not adequately tested

How long is adequate? And how would you know?
 

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They will still "test" the vaccine while it's being used. The only difference is that the test subjects will be the one's getting the vaccine as citizens and not test subjects. By this time next year we the companies should have a good idea of what the 1 year effects are if any

Unfortunately there is a lot of bad information about the Vaccines. But I'll keep watching and see side effects in "real time"
the american are threatning to vacinate 300, million in 12 months, 12 months is a bit late to discover it had problems.

there is a lot of deliberate misinfomation about the vacine and claims its been adequayely tested is one such

the uk govenmebt has claimed that, and already had to alter its advice on who its safe for after only 48 hours, as data became available from citizens
 

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How long is adequate? And how would you know?
here a BBC article on of approval of the vacine Covid vaccine: US experts recommend Pfizer vaccine approval

the first few lines explain that they have decided the vacines benifits outway its risks

that clearly means there are indeed risks,
from a scociety point of vew they may be correct.

from a personal perspective of choosing to have the vacine in preferance to an incredably small risk of death, things may not be so clear cut

thats largly because the infomation you require to make an informed opinion is not freely available

leaving you with only a moral question

do you trust big pharma to put your well being ahead of trillions of dollars of profit?
do you trust govenment to put your well being a head of the well beibg of society.

as the reasonable answer to those is no, .....
 

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just read an intresting article that the miniscule % of healthy young peopke who become very ill with the virus are not unlucky, they have a rare gentic abnormality , that causes a very serious over reaction in their imune response

it also seems possible that they may also be the ones that have an extreme respibce to the vacine and so will be the ones who are not vaccinated

they have also discover a slightly less rare abnormality, as to why some people get the disease at all whilst others, most dont contract it or are at least asymtomatic

Covid: Genes hold clues to why some people get severely ill
 
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