Long time black belt needs help getting back into practice.
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It's a couple of hours from me, but unfortunately I don't know anyone in that area.
KenpoMaster805
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Ya its better to find a partner that you train with
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I was fortunate to have a lot of good dojos near me and trained at all of them.
I also used to drive long distances to train. And at more than one dojo. But gas was a whole lot cheaper then. I canāt imagine what Iād do now if I was a young man.
Close proximity to quality instruction is a serious concern. Especially these days.
I also used to drive long distances to train. And at more than one dojo. But gas was a whole lot cheaper then. I canāt imagine what Iād do now if I was a young man.
Close proximity to quality instruction is a serious concern. Especially these days.
Agree with you 100% there.
Before this video was available online, my teacher said if anybody knew how to do "Tie" (combo in this video), he would pay that person $10,000.
If you get a training partner and drill this combo 10,000 times, can you learn this combo and save yourself $10,000?
Now you have learned a MA common sense - "attacking 1 leg will give you a chance to attack the other leg". Can you come up 10 more combos by using this concept?
All you will need is just a training partner.
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Chris Parker
Grandmaster
Hi,
So, I'm going to start with the obvious, but somehow completely missed questions...
Black belt in what?
How many years ago?
What training are you doing, or looking to do? Karate is very different to Judo, which is different to Aikido, which is different to TKD, which is different to Iaido... you see where I'm going? And I'm only picking things you can get a "black belt" in... if we expand past that, it opens up a whole lot more. Martial arts aren't just one thing.
Honestly, John, you consistently give the worst advice I've come across on a martial arts forum. You never once consider any factor other than your own very limited grasp of what martial arts are, and the tiny area that that occupies. Seriously, without knowing what martial art in particular the OP has training in, how can you offer advice on how to train it? If he trained in Judo, what does blocking 20 punches have to do with it?
No, it doesn't. Shodan (the initial rank for "black belt" in the vast majority of schools) means "first step". In Japanese arts, it typically means, as another member puts it, "qualified beginner". In other words, someone who has the fundamentals down to a particular degree. Hell, you're not a teacher until 3rd or 5th dan in many schools. The OP may have 5 years of study, he may have 3, he may have 10. Not one single person has bothered to ask these basic questions yet.
Well, frankly, your opinion doesn't really mean much, then. You're applying your own views with absolutely no understanding of any context whatsoever, and a woeful grasp of martial arts in general.
Apps to help find training partners, you mean? And, as far as "aren't many where I live", well... we'll come back to that....
So... your choices include your own school, the one you earned a "black belt" in, that, presumably, teaches the same art still (despite changing the name and instructor), which would therefore help you de-rust your skills, give you training partners, help you continue where you left off, and develop new skills and deeper understanding of something you already know... or an MMA place, which is more likely starting almost from scratch, re-learning approaches and methodologies, new training paradigms, and rendering your rank completely moot...
Look, I have to come back to: What did you train? and what are you looking to get out of a continuation/resumption of martial study?
And, yeah, it's not the most valid excuse, unless you are simply never going to ever drive at night due to that concern... but, you head down that path, and you just continually limit your movement, until the world becomes so small that there is nothing past your front door.
Martial arts are, realistically, a luxury, not a necessity (no matter how obsessed some of us get!). Their practice is dependent on a range of factors, such as availability, motivation, affordability, proximity, and so on. The more motivated, the more you can overcome some of the other factors... for example, my teachers for my arts are dominantly in very different areas... I live in Melbourne, Australia, with my teachers in Sydney, Perth, and Japan. So, it's a bit of a distance to travel, but my motivation has me finding ways to achieve it. The financial side is the most difficult, but being willing to sacrifice certain other luxuries gives me a bit of freedom to afford things I'm more interested in.
What I'm saying here is simple. If you can't do it at the moment, you can't do it. You then have a few choices... accept that, at least for now, such plans have to be put on hold; find a way to overcome the obstacles, whether financial, psychological (fear), or other; or, complain and expect the world to feel sorry enough for you that you get your way.
Remember that one of the most consistent aspects of martial study is the practice of learning to see what is actually in front of you, without expectation or judgement, so that you can respond appropriately. This way you don't over- or under-react to a threat, but it also means that, when you find yourself facing obstacles, you see what the reality of them is, whether they can be overcome, or not, and you work within that reality. The third option is not really one that has any real place in the world of martial study. And remember how good you actually have it. Go back but a few decades, and training in a range of martial arts means moving entire countries.
What? You're denying your own premise there... you "agree 100%" that our OP is "best off finding a training partner" (I don't agree that that's the best idea... we literally don't have enough information to make any kind of assessment that way), you then have a video of what is, realistically, a fairly basic wrestling chain (arm drag, rotate, ankle pick), and say that your teacher would offer anyone $10,000 if they could do it?!?!? I'm assuming without being shown it, because, well... that 10 grand seems pretty easy to cash in on. But, to create that particular drill, in exactly that fashion, deliberately, without instruction is highly unlikely... which means, what you need isn't a training partner, it's a teacher to instruct you in the first place.
But,again, this is not (all of) martial arts. Martial arts are not, despite your hugely simplistic and amateuristic view, just "fist meets face". That is, bluntly, a child's understanding. It is the most basic, superficial, shallow, uninformed, least practical, and least important way of thinking of martial arts there is. Each martial art is a unique system of physio-psychological practices, developing very particular tactical processes and responses to differing energies and engagements. To simplify that down to "fist meets face", which, itself, is a deeply lacking concept and expression, is to completely miss what "fist meets face" entails in the particular system in question. Which you don't know yet, as, again, no one has even bothered to ask the OP.
So, I'm going to start with the obvious, but somehow completely missed questions...
Black belt in what?
How many years ago?
What training are you doing, or looking to do? Karate is very different to Judo, which is different to Aikido, which is different to TKD, which is different to Iaido... you see where I'm going? And I'm only picking things you can get a "black belt" in... if we expand past that, it opens up a whole lot more. Martial arts aren't just one thing.
Honestly, John, you consistently give the worst advice I've come across on a martial arts forum. You never once consider any factor other than your own very limited grasp of what martial arts are, and the tiny area that that occupies. Seriously, without knowing what martial art in particular the OP has training in, how can you offer advice on how to train it? If he trained in Judo, what does blocking 20 punches have to do with it?
No, it doesn't. Shodan (the initial rank for "black belt" in the vast majority of schools) means "first step". In Japanese arts, it typically means, as another member puts it, "qualified beginner". In other words, someone who has the fundamentals down to a particular degree. Hell, you're not a teacher until 3rd or 5th dan in many schools. The OP may have 5 years of study, he may have 3, he may have 10. Not one single person has bothered to ask these basic questions yet.
Well, frankly, your opinion doesn't really mean much, then. You're applying your own views with absolutely no understanding of any context whatsoever, and a woeful grasp of martial arts in general.
Apps to help find training partners, you mean? And, as far as "aren't many where I live", well... we'll come back to that....
So... your choices include your own school, the one you earned a "black belt" in, that, presumably, teaches the same art still (despite changing the name and instructor), which would therefore help you de-rust your skills, give you training partners, help you continue where you left off, and develop new skills and deeper understanding of something you already know... or an MMA place, which is more likely starting almost from scratch, re-learning approaches and methodologies, new training paradigms, and rendering your rank completely moot...
Look, I have to come back to: What did you train? and what are you looking to get out of a continuation/resumption of martial study?
And, yeah, it's not the most valid excuse, unless you are simply never going to ever drive at night due to that concern... but, you head down that path, and you just continually limit your movement, until the world becomes so small that there is nothing past your front door.
Martial arts are, realistically, a luxury, not a necessity (no matter how obsessed some of us get!). Their practice is dependent on a range of factors, such as availability, motivation, affordability, proximity, and so on. The more motivated, the more you can overcome some of the other factors... for example, my teachers for my arts are dominantly in very different areas... I live in Melbourne, Australia, with my teachers in Sydney, Perth, and Japan. So, it's a bit of a distance to travel, but my motivation has me finding ways to achieve it. The financial side is the most difficult, but being willing to sacrifice certain other luxuries gives me a bit of freedom to afford things I'm more interested in.
What I'm saying here is simple. If you can't do it at the moment, you can't do it. You then have a few choices... accept that, at least for now, such plans have to be put on hold; find a way to overcome the obstacles, whether financial, psychological (fear), or other; or, complain and expect the world to feel sorry enough for you that you get your way.
Remember that one of the most consistent aspects of martial study is the practice of learning to see what is actually in front of you, without expectation or judgement, so that you can respond appropriately. This way you don't over- or under-react to a threat, but it also means that, when you find yourself facing obstacles, you see what the reality of them is, whether they can be overcome, or not, and you work within that reality. The third option is not really one that has any real place in the world of martial study. And remember how good you actually have it. Go back but a few decades, and training in a range of martial arts means moving entire countries.
Agree with you 100% there.
Before this video was available online, my teacher said if anybody knew how to do "Tie" (combo in this video), he would pay that person $10,000.
If you get a training partner and drill this combo 10,000 times, can you learn this combo and save yourself $10,000?
Now you have learned a MA common sense - "attacking 1 leg will give you a chance to attack the other leg". Can you come up 10 more combos by using this concept?
All you will need is just a training partner.
What? You're denying your own premise there... you "agree 100%" that our OP is "best off finding a training partner" (I don't agree that that's the best idea... we literally don't have enough information to make any kind of assessment that way), you then have a video of what is, realistically, a fairly basic wrestling chain (arm drag, rotate, ankle pick), and say that your teacher would offer anyone $10,000 if they could do it?!?!? I'm assuming without being shown it, because, well... that 10 grand seems pretty easy to cash in on. But, to create that particular drill, in exactly that fashion, deliberately, without instruction is highly unlikely... which means, what you need isn't a training partner, it's a teacher to instruct you in the first place.
But,again, this is not (all of) martial arts. Martial arts are not, despite your hugely simplistic and amateuristic view, just "fist meets face". That is, bluntly, a child's understanding. It is the most basic, superficial, shallow, uninformed, least practical, and least important way of thinking of martial arts there is. Each martial art is a unique system of physio-psychological practices, developing very particular tactical processes and responses to differing energies and engagements. To simplify that down to "fist meets face", which, itself, is a deeply lacking concept and expression, is to completely miss what "fist meets face" entails in the particular system in question. Which you don't know yet, as, again, no one has even bothered to ask the OP.
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