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I guess that. When we talking about low kicks (I'm talking about sparring) below the belt or above the belt?

I saw the kids doing sparring and they use mostly the side kick.

I like side kicks,roundhouse kicks,front kicks.


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In my experience sparring requires kicks above the belt (mostly.) Round kicks, side kicks...hook kicks...whatever.

In the techniques, geared toward self-defense, you'll notice most kicks are "below the belt" because that's where the majority of the better targets are; bladder, groin, knees, etc... that is in regards to quick and devastating methods of taking out an attacker.

...it's okay to call us "dirty"...we're used to it. :)
 

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I guess that. When we talking about low kicks (I'm talking about sparring) below the belt or above the belt?

I saw the kids doing sparring and they use mostly the side kick.

I like side kicks,roundhouse kicks,front kicks.


Manny

Any time you get into sparring, you're going to be using a limited set of techniques for safety reasons. Sparring is fun, but it can't use the actual techniques that you'll find in a fight or else you'd run out of sparring partners pretty quickly. That's why most sparring devolves into either kick-boxing, point-tag, or MMA-style stuff regardless of the martial art you practice.
 

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Any time you get into sparring, you're going to be using a limited set of techniques for safety reasons. Sparring is fun, but it can't use the actual techniques that you'll find in a fight or else you'd run out of sparring partners pretty quickly. That's why most sparring devolves into either kick-boxing, point-tag, or MMA-style stuff regardless of the martial art you practice.

All types of martial arts practice are "limited" compared to real fights. There is no type of practice where you are actually breaking each other's knees, gouging each other's eye's, crushing each other's tracheas, etc. This is a common misperception (sparring is limited and other training is not) about training and sparring. MMA style sparring typically has less rules than any other type of training, and much more realistic resistance.
 

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All types of martial arts practice are "limited" compared to real fights. There is no type of practice where you are actually breaking each other's knees, gouging each other's eye's, crushing each other's tracheas, etc. This is a common misperception (sparring is limited and other training is not) about training and sparring. MMA style sparring typically has less rules than any other type of training, and much more realistic resistance.

It certainly has a place as a training tool, but there are other ways to build in flaws that provide for more realism. the best way to build in a flaw is to slow things down because going slow is the only one that won't be ingrained into one's nervous system when it hits the fan. I'll start a new thread on this so we don't totally derail Manny's topic and we can have a long discussion of the various training tool merits.
 
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In my experience sparring requires kicks above the belt (mostly.) Round kicks, side kicks...hook kicks...whatever.

In the techniques, geared toward self-defense, you'll notice most kicks are "below the belt" because that's where the majority of the better targets are; bladder, groin, knees, etc... that is in regards to quick and devastating methods of taking out an attacker.

...it's okay to call us "dirty"...we're used to it. :)


Got it!! Kenpo perse uses low kicks cause it's a street self defense oriented MA, in sparring one can use any kick above the belt cause it's a sport.

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Got it!! Kenpo perse uses low kicks cause it's a street self defense oriented MA, in sparring one can use any kick above the belt cause it's a sport.

Manny

It depends upon the school, we allow groin shots in sparring from day one. Leg kicks are allowed with higher ranking students. Allowing the low shots doesn't just open up more targets, high kickers typically leave their groin open or their base leg open to kicks/sweeps if they don't practice against those tactics regularly.
 

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In Kenpo we teach all kinds of kicks. Side kicks, front kicks, round house kicks, retarded ball kick, front-back kicks, spinning back kicks, inward cresant kick, outward cresant kick, etc. We also teach in Kenpo to kick to as many targets as possible. Normally we teach punch-kick combinations or diversa.
 
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As long as I see it, in Kenpo the kicks more used are the front kick,the side kick and the roundhouse kick all aimed to the knees,groin and stoch area.

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Are we talking self-defense? Nothing above the waist (harder to block, faster, better balance, etc.). Are we talking sparring? We teach side, round, hook, axe, crescents, front, turning, spinning, etc.
 
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Are we talking self-defense? Nothing above the waist (harder to block, faster, better balance, etc.). Are we talking sparring? We teach side, round, hook, axe, crescents, front, turning, spinning, etc.

You got it! For SD the low kicks are the best, for sparring inside dojo the ones you mentioned.

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What kind kicks are more used in Kenpo?

Manny

The rear thrust kick to the groin area and side kicks to the knees are the kicks most often seen in our self defense (Tracy's) curriculum.

The kick I see used most often in sparring is the front foot wheel, followed closely by the rear thrust.
 

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