Jin Young Getting Beat at Tom Wongs school ??

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Has anyone read the description of the video ? didnt read it properly when I posted it.

"" This video shown a good example of theory must proven by action. Jin and many experience fighters and judges share the same feeling: These second year class mates are very advance in skill! you can see this is another regular sparring training day for our second level class(10 level). "master" Jin was uninvitingly dropped in, after he had jointed our beginning level (1)class training the first two session.; he was uninvitingly jointing our dinner and start to bragged about his KF theory of thrusting hip forward and flexing his chest when he generate power in his punch. He probably not aware of this is the theory of Shaolin KF. Which was the opposite of what we do, instead we coil up our body like a spring or Taigi way. But, We were all keeping in mind of Sifu Tom Wong's warning of controlling our temperament and being curtesy, we let him talk. But, later we could n't stand his non- stop nonsense, and tone of ego, we told him everything we do is different than what he thinks. We wish we could cross hand instead of arguing. The following day, Jin "accidently" dropped in our second class and wanted to sneak peak at our more advance class to learn more new techniques to teach his students; just as you see in the video that he had learn our sticky hand : foksao attack without a downward deflection, and the following day he would be demonstrating it on line in Boston, which he criticized the Yipman WC with a downward press technique before counter strike from a Fok Sao, what he previously learn.
We record all of our training classes for our students to review their performance, in order to see their own progress. We did not anticipated him dropping in our 2nd level class without finishing the 1st class or passing the test. Though, We thought it was interesting to share how he would apply the hundreds of "deadly" techniques he bragged previously in a free sparring. However, He is certainly not the first nor last "grandmaster" that came through our classes with the similar experience. One thing they do share in common, which they feel our second year students are very "advance"(more than their 25 years?). Please look them up! ""

Not sure where they got he is a grandmaster from ? From what iv read hes gotten into a bit of trouble for making it seem like he knows alot but didnt get very far into Hawkins Cheung before starting to teach. So that definitely is no grandmaster. Never seen any of Jins stuff that has claimed hes that good either. The grammar seems like someone who speaks english as a second language lol
 

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^^^^ If that is supposed to be bragging about the quality of Tom Wong's students in that video.....they looked like crap!
 

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Who is Jin young?

Who is Tom Wong?

Isn't China boxer (Jin) a youtube sifu celebrity?

I've no idea who Tom Wong is, but if he is a direct student of SN...I would like to learn more about him.
 

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Stoopid Youtoob! Some student at Tom Wong's school with his nose out of joint, posting a training video out of context. More dumb WC politics. Any response based on stoopid-toob is just speculation. If you really want to know how good or bad Jin is, or how humble or how arrogant.... you'd have to look him up in person and find out. That's how it is in WC.

I've never met him so I won't comment further. :cool:
 

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So exchanging different concepts of power generation is bragging? What-the-love ever.

Whoever wrote that is a self-righteous prick that wants to start more politics and needs to have his *** kicked by his sihings. I can't stand this kind of BS.
 
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So exchanging different concepts of power generation is bragging? What-the-love ever.

Whoever wrote that is a self-righteous prick that wants to start more politics and needs to have his *** kicked by his sihings. I can't stand this kind of BS.

What exactly are you referring to ? The description of the video ? or someones reply on the thread.
 

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What do you guys think of this video ? Didnt know what to make out of it.
Seems jin visited Tom Wongs Yks wing chun and did some sparring but it just seems like hes standing there and just getting jabbed in the face ...

Maybe he's doing some face conditioning/ Iron face training?
 

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Yeah, it's a fairly uninteresting video of two guys training together. I don't know what they're working on, so I have no opinion about whether or not they are doing it well.
 

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What do you guys think of this video ? Didnt know what to make out of it.
Seems jin visited Tom Wongs Yks wing chun and did some sparring but it just seems like hes standing there and just getting jabbed in the face ...

Rule #1: If you are a martial artist, then don't use boxing gloves unless you do a martial art sport that uses boxing gloves. Everyone else including wing chun should be using the MMA type gloves that allow you to open your hand grab and parry without having "pillows" on your hand.

As for the video. It's clearly light sparring and we don't know the context in which he's training. The energy that he displays makes me think he's studying the punches that are coming in. I only say this because I tend to do the same thing from time to time where I'll sit and watch the punch coming in while my sparring partners are sparring against me. This helps me to see what they are doing correctly or if they are leaving themselves open when doing a technique. The other thing I do is when I want students raise their level of intensity when sparring then, I put them with someone who is of higher skill level. This allows the student to go harder than they could have if they were sparring with someone at their level. I wouldn't read much into this video in terms of winning vs losing. It look more like teaching and learning to me.
 

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Has anyone read the description of the video ? didnt read it properly when I posted it.

"" This video shown a good example of theory must proven by action. Jin and many experience fighters and judges share the same feeling: These second year class mates are very advance in skill! you can see this is another regular sparring training day for our second level class(10 level). "master" Jin was uninvitingly dropped in, after he had jointed our beginning level (1)class training the first two session.; he was uninvitingly jointing our dinner and start to bragged about his KF theory of thrusting hip forward and flexing his chest when he generate power in his punch. He probably not aware of this is the theory of Shaolin KF. Which was the opposite of what we do, instead we coil up our body like a spring or Taigi way. But, We were all keeping in mind of Sifu Tom Wong's warning of controlling our temperament and being curtesy, we let him talk. But, later we could n't stand his non- stop nonsense, and tone of ego, we told him everything we do is different than what he thinks. We wish we could cross hand instead of arguing. The following day, Jin "accidently" dropped in our second class and wanted to sneak peak at our more advance class to learn more new techniques to teach his students; just as you see in the video that he had learn our sticky hand : foksao attack without a downward deflection, and the following day he would be demonstrating it on line in Boston, which he criticized the Yipman WC with a downward press technique before counter strike from a Fok Sao, what he previously learn.
We record all of our training classes for our students to review their performance, in order to see their own progress. We did not anticipated him dropping in our 2nd level class without finishing the 1st class or passing the test. Though, We thought it was interesting to share how he would apply the hundreds of "deadly" techniques he bragged previously in a free sparring. However, He is certainly not the first nor last "grandmaster" that came through our classes with the similar experience. One thing they do share in common, which they feel our second year students are very "advance"(more than their 25 years?). Please look them up! ""

Not sure where they got he is a grandmaster from ? From what iv read hes gotten into a bit of trouble for making it seem like he knows alot but didnt get very far into Hawkins Cheung before starting to teach. So that definitely is no grandmaster. Never seen any of Jins stuff that has claimed hes that good either. The grammar seems like someone who speaks english as a second language lol
Well it definitely doesn't sound like my first impression of the video. I guess I got that wrong.

But it's still evident that it's light sparring and that nothing serious is happening. If that's the level of intent that is used to determine who is better at WC, then WC has a serious problem.
 
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Well it definitely doesn't sound like my first impression of the video. I guess I got that wrong.

But it's still evident that it's light sparring and that nothing serious is happening. If that's the level of intent that is used to determine who is better at WC, then WC has a serious problem.

Worse yet, a lot of people try to determine whose martial art is better by keyboard sparring! :D:D:D
 

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Well it definitely doesn't sound like my first impression of the video. I guess I got that wrong.

But it's still evident that it's light sparring and that nothing serious is happening. If that's the level of intent that is used to determine who is better at WC, then WC has a serious problem.

I see nothing in there that is an indication of anything pertaining to Wing Chun. Unless one or both of the participants make some statement about what they intended, I think we're trying very hard to make something out of nothing here.
 

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Lol. Oh what a google search find in 2019! This event was funny. Yes, this is the real Jin Young. I came to Toms school twice because I was interested in joining. The first day was fun and a few of the guys invited me to a Chinese restaurant after. We discussed my method and theirs. It was very cordial. So I went a second time to train and possibly join the school. You can see me training there in the video. I followed their curriculum and was enjoying myself. The black young man i light sparred was one of their senior students. He was hesitant to engage probably because he knows I have a lot of sparring experience. I didnt want to be the guy who goes and starts train wrecking everyone, so I set aside my ego. I just put my hands up and walked towards him so that he could work his skills Were wearing full face masks and boxing gloves. The puches dont even hurt so I didnt mind. I did it with all their guys so that they could trust that I wouldnt go crazy on them. The young black man afterwards didnt have a ride home, so I gave him one. I didnt know that some idiot was recording me training and later edit it so he can post stupid **** on YouTube. I explained the situation on YouTube, but then the idiot disabled comments. Wing Chun is so full of assholes like this. Afraid to tell me to my face that he has a problem with me. They hide like cockroaches and only speak out when its safe. I dont blame Tom but after this ****, I decided not to join his school. - Jin
 
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Lol. Wing Chun is so full of assholes- Jin

Hey Jin, ...hope you don't mind, but I edited your response to get right to the point! :D Anyway, You used to post on here years ago. Why not join in again and bring us up to date on your martial arts journey? I used to follow your old "Chinaboxer" clips, then "poof" you disappeared. Now this:


So first off. What's with the white hair. Latest fashion or did you see a Ghost? o_O
 

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Lol your edit is pretty much right in my experience. I actually had a friend bleach my hair last Halloween as part of my costume. And I really liked it so I kept it. Lol. Plus it hides all my grey hairs. I took a break from social media to focus on continuing to refine my method. I finally feel like its time so I restarted my channel. Its going to focus not on styles but rather understanding Biomechanix and physics in the form of connection, weight distribution, angle change to create leverage in any range of combat. Ill also explain how to apply my method to every day life to help relieve life pressures. Ill also have experts on to discuss related subjects. Glad to see youre still at it. Keep it up. Youre one of the good guys!
 

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Lol. Oh what a google search find in 2019! This event was funny. Yes, this is the real Jin Young. I came to Toms school twice because I was interested in joining. The first day was fun and a few of the guys invited me to a Chinese restaurant after. We discussed my method and theirs. It was very cordial. So I went a second time to train and possibly join the school. You can see me training there in the video. I followed their curriculum and was enjoying myself. The black young man i light sparred was one of their senior students. He was hesitant to engage probably because he knows I have a lot of sparring experience. I didnt want to be the guy who goes and starts train wrecking everyone, so I set aside my ego. I just put my hands up and walked towards him so that he could work his skills Were wearing full face masks and boxing gloves. The puches dont even hurt so I didnt mind. I did it with all their guys so that they could trust that I wouldnt go crazy on them. The young black man afterwards didnt have a ride home, so I gave him one. I didnt know that some idiot was recording me training and later edit it so he can post stupid **** on YouTube. I explained the situation on YouTube, but then the idiot disabled comments. Wing Chun is so full of assholes like this. Afraid to tell me to my face that he has a problem with me. They hide like cockroaches and only speak out when its safe. I dont blame Tom but after this ****, I decided not to join his school. - Jin
If it helps, knowing nothing about wing chun, and less than nothing about the politics in WC, it doesn't look like sparring matches with you getting beat at all. It looks (like some of the original comments on here said) like you're drilling and trying to encourage people to punch/practice punching at the right distance, and someone was on the side taking a video.
 

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