Is Wing Chun being used the wrong way in fighting?

[Jens]

@ hunschuld
Can you elaborate on what you mean by “keep changing distance until you are comfortable,receive what comes”?
Do you mean constantly opening and closing distance by stepping away and towards the opponent until the opponent over extends or over commits by stepping into your range?

 

[hunschuld]

I think that is a good way to explain it

 

[drop bear104]

 

[Jens]

@ hunschuld
What is “the delivery system” of wing chun?

 

[hunschuld]

@ hunschuld
What is “the delivery system” of wing chun?

I am not really sure what you mean by delivery system. My assumption is how is power produced and delivered.

 

[geezer]

I am not really sure what you mean by delivery system. My assumption is how is power produced and delivered.

Oh. That makes sense, I guess.

....I was thinking the US Postal Service, UPS or Fed Ex like when ordering from "Everything Wing Chun".

 

[Jens]

I am not really sure what you mean by delivery system. My assumption is how is power produced and delivered.

yes! But more specifically regarding how power is delivered successfully to the target?

The “delivery system” of any martial art is the method used to ensure your strikes will land on its intended target. For example “the delivery system” in western boxing is the ability to “set traps” to bait and set up your opponent to ensure your strike will land successfully with precision timing.

 

[geezer]

yes! But more specifically regarding how power is delivered successfully to the target?

The “delivery system” of any martial art is the method used to ensure your strikes will land on its intended target. For example “the delivery system” in western boxing is the ability to “set traps” to bait and set up your opponent to ensure your strike will land successfully with precision timing.

That's pretty broad... if "delivery system" includes footwork, angling, distance/position and timing ....and power generation and transmission.... Well it's a lot to talk about, that's for sure. Hunter might be able to boil that down to a single post. I sure couldn't.

 

[Kung Fu Wang104]

Does WC use the following strategy/tactic?

- Use your punch to create an opening, you then punch through that opening.

 

[wckf92]

Does WC use the following strategy/tactic?

- Use your punch to create an opening, you then punch through that opening.

You are trained in WC...what is your opinion on that?

 

[Kung Fu Wang104]

You are trained in WC...what is your opinion on that?

This is the main strategy/tactic of the striking art. It's pretty much "common sense" and used in all MA systems.

Since some people said in this thread that WC doesn't use any strategy/tactic, that's why I ask.

IMO, strategy/tactic such as this is very important.

 

[wckf92]

This is the main strategy/tactic of the striking art. It's pretty much "common sense" and used in all MA systems.

Since some people said in this thread that WC doesn't use any strategy/tactic, that's why I ask.

IMO, strategy/tactic such as this is very important.

I see.
Well, I would say that it is not the main strategy/tactic. I would say the main strategy/tactic is to punch/strike...THEN...if the punch/strike doesn't land on the intended target, or is otherwise interrupted along its way to the target, then the hands flow and cycle per the methods contained in the WC training to deal with the obstruction.
Using your logic from above...you'd be intentionally punching an obstructed path that now forces you to "create an opening to punch through". Doesn't make sense if you ask me.

 

[Kung Fu Wang104]

Using your logic from above...you'd be intentionally punching an obstructed path that now forces you to "create an opening to punch through". Doesn't make sense if you ask me.

That's how the TCMA punch combo "black tiger eat the heart" is used. You punch your opponent's head, your opponent raises arm to block it, you then punch to his chest.

In the following clip, his both punches are on the same level. IMO, it doesn't make sense.

 

[wckf92]

That's how the TCMA punch combo "black tiger eat the heart" is used. You punch your opponent's head, your opponent raises arm to block it, you then punch to his chest.

In the following clip, his both punches are on the same level. IMO, it doesn't make sense.

Ok, now you've lost me. You just changed what you said!
Anyway, as for the drill you are referencing...here is a hint you should know already: it's just a drill. It is not a literal expression of fighting.

 

[Kung Fu Wang104]

Ok, now you've lost me. You just changed what you said!

What change did I make?

1. Use your punch to create an opening, you then punch through that opening.

2. You punch your opponent's head, your opponent raises arm to block it, you then punch to his chest.

 

[wckf92]

What change did I make?

1. Use your punch to create an opening, you then punch through that opening.

2. You punch your opponent's head, your opponent raises arm to block it, you then punch to his chest.

Exactly. Your 2 contradicts your 1.

 

[Kung Fu Wang104]

Exactly. Your 2 contradicts your 1.

1. Use your punch to create an opening, you then punch through that opening.

2. You punch your opponent's head, your opponent raises arm to block it (Use your punch to create an opening), you then punch to his chest (you then punch through that opening).

 

[wckf92]

1. Use your punch to create an opening, you then punch through that opening.

2. You punch your opponent's head, your opponent raises arm to block it (Use your punch to create an opening), you then punch to his chest (you then punch through that opening).

I think its just the way you type dude...it is confusing to comprehend some times.

You stated: "Use your punch to create an opening,", so:
If you just punched your opponent in the head, you are not using your punch to create an opening...you are exploiting an opening.
If you just punched your opponent in the head, his block is too late.

 

[Gerry Seymour11]

I think its just the way you type dude...it is confusing to comprehend some times.

You stated: "Use your punch to create an opening,", so:
If you just punched your opponent in the head, you are not using your punch to create an opening...you are exploiting an opening.
If you just punched your opponent in the head, his block is too late.

I actually think John’s post (especially with the clarification) makes sense. I misread the first version, but his example cleared up the meaning for me.

 

[wckf92]

I actually think John’s post (especially with the clarification) makes sense. I misread the first version, but his example cleared up the meaning for me.

Cool.
Yeah maybe my Vulcan logic filter needs adjusting haha.