Intent Yi (意)

[windwalker099]

You don't seem to understand Yi, Qi and Li at all..... no sense in discussing this further with you..., I await your misused/overused/condescending laughing emoji

Not to disappoint on the emoji — here you go

It’s interesting that those most vocal in judging what is or isn’t Taiji rarely show any proof behind what they write. If this were just about words, they’d win — it’s about doing.

Even with people I don’t always agree with, at least they show their work in videos. One may disagree, they can’t dismiss.

Going forward, I’d ask posters to share experiences rather than speak as unknown authorities without showing any of their work. Sincere questions and comments always welcomed— the authoritative tone some take is getting tiring.

 

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I made the video of OP for you. Click volume button to unmute.

https://imgur.com/a/CHa2OMh

and the video of the longer version in my post #28...

https://imgur.com/ykvBk3a

Thank you, but not workable here.
The vid show Wang Peisheng? I’ll look around the Chinese tubes

 

[Same Trick]

A maybe different perspective…

Yi 意 is often said to lead the qi, and the body follows — a common saying. A simple analogy might be a pitcher throwing a ball: his yi is on the end point, his body trained to deliver the type of pitch he intends. The “qi” could be thought of as the ball, with the body as the delivery mechanism.

What was shown in the videos, though, is quite different from that pitcher/batter analogy. The practice there is about using intent so the body doesn’t act directly on the opponent’s frame — instead it engages their internal aspects, which then influence their structure.

I find that contrast interesting. It highlights how different training approaches shape what we mean by “yi moves qi.”

If it really were “not that hard, rather simple actually”, most people wouldn’t be asking about what the videos show. They’d be sharing how they’ve done it themselves, or how they felt it from another.

IME, even those who have directly experienced it found it quite difficult to do, let alone reproduce.

What do you mean with “opponents internal aspects” ?

 

[windwalker099]

Thank you, but not workable here.
The vid show Wang Peisheng? I’ll look around the Chinese tubes

You do understand the clip was a training video — not a demonstration of how the skill is actually applied?

If you’ve trained this yourself and found it unworkable, or seen others try and it didn’t hold up, that would be useful to hear. The training methods shown are actually quite common among practitioners in China who work with this approach — it’s not something unusual or unique.

 

[windwalker099]

What do you mean with “opponents internal aspects” ?

The question itself suggests you — like others here — are coming from different experiences and perspectives.

On this thread, I’ve seen comments saying some of us don’t really “understand” what internal means. I can’t speak for everyone, I’m not trying to give a definition from theory — only to share experiences and show clips of the kind of work we do.