For people who say that accuracy is the most important factor in a gunfight, in that case I would say choose a rifle as rifles are known for their accuracy, or a shotgun which has a much bigger field of fire and while you still do have to aim a shotgun its much easier to hit stuff with it with at least some of the pellets. As for handguns, they're the least accurate of the three so they probably won't do you much good.
If accuracy is most important
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In what environment? What is the range? What are the fields of fire and the fire lanes? No one firearm is for all situations. Your statement that handguns being the least accurate they probably won't do you much good is inaccurate.
It's sort of difficult to conceal a rifle or shotgun...
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Well then what about a grenade launcher then....remember almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades
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It would depend on factors such as barrel length and the choke you use as well as the distance you're shooting at. While it might not have a field of fire as big as lots of people might think, its certainly bigger than a single projectile.
Well, it depends on the range and the choke, as you say. In most indoors environments and at the most common confrontational distances, from the shooters perspective the shot is essentially behaving like a single projectile untill after at least five yards with most standard chokes:
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Well, it depends on the range and the choke, as you say. In most indoors environments and at the most common confrontational distances, from the shooters perspective the shot is essentially behaving like a single projectile untill after at least five yards with most standard chokes:
And since most defensive SG ammunition is Slug or buckshot.....
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I agree with you on this one. Depending on the environment and range it's possible for a knife to do more damage than everything that was listed. Also it's not so much the gun that has to be accurate but the person shooting a handgun. Every gun is built for a purpose and the accuracy that the gun will have is directly determined by the purpose of that specific gun. I'm not sure where this topic is going and the OP stated it.
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Yeah. All are a factor.
Absolute first factor if a firearm is needed is what weapon do you have access to and are able to employ at the moment.
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If you KNOW you're going to be in a gun fight, bring a rifle. In fact, bring 2. Or 3. Or more. And a friend or two. Who should all also be bringing a rifle or two or three... Handguns kind of suck for a lot of reasons -- but they're much more convenient to carry around if you aren't truly planning for trouble..
Meaning and significance can only derived through context. Not "black and white" "facts," because such things don't exist.
A rifle is more accurate than a handgun, sure.
A tank is better than a rifle.
A fighter jet is better than a tank.
An entire army is better than any of that.
So, without using any context, we could conclude that the best thing to do would be to deploy the entire army, navy, and air-force every time you leave your house to go anywhere. That would be a cold, hard fact. But that's not very practical, now is it? Imagine the massive expense and time involved, and -- you know, all of the people who would get really, really mad at you for marching an army around. Or, even driving a tank or carrying a rifle, if you go that route.
Better to use common sense.
Stop thinking in such narrow "black and white" terms. You do this in all of your posts, and it leads you very astray your conclusions. Rather, seek a broader understanding. Consider all sides of the issue. What is happening? Why is it happening? What are all of the variables involved in every aspect of this situation? What are the various ways it might turn out under different circumstances? What might I be overlooking? How you approach the question is far more important than any specific "fact" or "answer" that you can give.
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Around the time of the Sandy Hook shooting, in China there was a psychopath who went to a school and attacked students and faculty with a knife. While some people were hurt really badly and had to go to the hospital, they all lived, unlike in the Sandy Hook shooting where 26 people were killed. The anti gun crowd loves to point out that in the case in China, since all the attacker had was a knife, he wasn't able to kill any of his victims. If he had a gun no doubt some or all of them would be dead. The thing is, guns are super hard to get in China.
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Tanks and fighter jets are government issued and you only have access to them if you do a job that involves using them, such as if you're a fighter pilot. The Army is run by the government and is not available for private citizens to use at their discretion. So obviously those wouldn't be practical choices for self defense. Now rifles, most of the time they're less regulated and easier to get than handguns. Anybody with a clean record can buy a rifle and certainly anybody who can buy a handgun could buy a rifle. Now, carrying a rifle in public might not be a good idea but a rifle or shotgun is usually going to be better for home defense than a handgun. That's why its a good idea to use rifles and shotguns for home defense. As for a carry weapon, a handgun would be the most practical choice but if you want accuracy than you might want to carry a handgun with a long barrel. A longer barrel means more accuracy.
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Not so. You can buy a tank or fighter jet. Arming them fully would take more work, but could be done.
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Well the weapon systems are non operational and you can't get any of the ammo such as tank shells.
There are sources... I didn't say it easy, or even 100% legal (that's a whole different conversation. ..) let alone inexpensive, but it COULD be done...
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This thread took a turn somewhere LOL
and I'm not so sure that fighter jets and grenades have always hit their targets.
Not to mention Tanks.
and I'm not so sure that fighter jets and grenades have always hit their targets.
Not to mention Tanks.
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So another words, with the websites you posted, you could buy a tank and then if you had the tools and the mechanical know how or if you knew somebody who did that you could get the weapons systems working? And with the right sources you could get tank shells too?
I do know its possible to own a bazooka, a bazooka is just a pipe and a 12 volt battery, getting the rockets that the bazooka fires however is a whole different story.
