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cali_tkdbruin

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Originally posted by Seig
She can't read my notes, the P is for Punch.

Do you and KenpoTess have your own personal PCs that you use to access MTalk, or do you two have to spar for control the the keyboard? If so, who taps out first??? :boxing:


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Seig

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Originally posted by cali_tkdbruin
Do you and KenpoTess have your own personal PCs that you use to access MTalk, or do you two have to spar for control the the keyboard? If so, who taps out first??? :boxing:


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We have seperate PCs, DSL, a router and a hub.
We're often on at the same time.
 
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Thanks Tess!

So are those coordination exercises in a horse or other stationary stance, or are there stance changes involved? And is the "innovate" on the part of the person conducting the test, or the person taking the test?

I'm only asking because we have to do coordination movements on our tests, and those are always the ones I'm most concerned about, so I'm curious to see what others have to do. None of ours are specified as "requirements" on the charts, although there are several that usually get called. The person conducting the test will just call out something like, "stepping back into a cat, perform a pushdown block followed by a backfist followed by a front snap kick." My understanding is that the person conducting the test isn't looking at whether or not you perform all of the movements perfectly as much as at whether or not you react quickly and effectively. I haven't had any problems so far, but I've mostly had to do only two or three movements, maybe four once or twice. Once I get up to four, my brain gets a little overloaded, so the next test or two should be interesting. :)

Speaking of parries, when do you introduce them?

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Originally posted by SingingTiger
So are those coordination exercises in a horse or other stationary stance, or are there stance changes involved?
Rich

Both, we start in a stationary horse then as the student advances, we increase the difficulty (stance changes, moving in stances etc.) speed and other variables.

Originally posted by SingingTiger
Is the "innovate" on the part of the person conducting the test, or the person taking the test?
Rich

Both, but initially to illustrate and drill the coordination needed within the various combinations that are possible and to learn several different combinations of blocking, parrying, punching or striking, etc., all weaved together effectively.

Originally posted by SingingTiger
The person conducting the test will just call out something like, "stepping back into a cat, perform a pushdown block followed by a backfist followed by a front snap kick."
Rich

That is a great drill as well, that type of impromptu command response is more during the innovate section.

Originally posted by SingingTiger
Speaking of parries, when do you introduce them?
Rich

From the start {they are a sub categories of blocking} and a necessary portion of understanding the "double factor" when training or practicing the various coordinations exercises or drills with 2 arms.

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Originally posted by KenpoTess
Rachel.. Here you go :) We follow the I.K.K.O. curriculum.
hope this gives you an insight ~!

Tess


For Yellow Belt

KENPO CREED & 7 SAYINGS

STANCES
* Attention
* Natural
* Training Horse
* Neutral Bow
* Forward Bow
* 45 degree Cat

BLOCKS
* Inward
* Outward ( Vertical )
* Outward ( Extended )
* Upward
* Downward
* Downward horizontal forearm

PUNCHES
* Thrusting Horizontal
* Snapping Horizontal
* Thrusting Vertical
* Snapping Vertical
* Thrusting Uppercut
* Snapping Uppercut
* Step Through Punches

STRIKES
* Inward hand sword
* Outward hand sword
* Inward horizontal elbow
* Outward horizontal elbow
* Inward overhead elbow
* Obscure elbow
* Back hammer fist
* Outward horizontal back knuckle
* Back knuckle rake

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Inward overhead claw
* 5 - finger pinch

KICKS
* Front snapping ball
* Front snapping roundhouse
* Side snapping knife edge
* Back snapping heel
* Step through kicks

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Step through
* Step drag
* Drag step

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. DELAYED SWORD - (Front right hand lapel grab)
2. ALTERNATING MACES - ( Front two hand push )
3. SWORD OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front left roundhouse punch )
4. DEFLECTING HAMMER - ( Front right thrust kick )
5. CAPTURED TWIGS - ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. GRASP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
7. CHECKING THE STORM - ( Front overhead club )
8. MACE OF AGGRESSION - ( front two hand lapel grab pulling in )
9. ATTACKING MACE - ( Front right step through punch )
10. SWORD AND HAMMER - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )

FORMS & SETS
SHORT FORM # 1
BLOCKING SET # 1

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES
1. B1a
2. B1b
3. B2a
4. B2b
5. B3a
6. B3b
7. B4a
8. B4b

Orange Belt

ORANGE PLEDGE & 10 SAYINGS

ORANGE I.K.K.O. PATCH DESCRIPTIONS

EQUATION FORMULA

STANCES
* Reverse Bow
* Wide Kneel
* Close Kneel

BLOCKS
* Inside Downward (palm down)
* Inside Downward (palm up)

PARRIES
* Inward Parry
* Outward Parry

PUNCHES
* Thrusting Horizontal - inverted
* Snapping Horizontal - inverted
* Step Through Block Punch

STRIKES
* Thrusting heel palm
* Upward elbow
* Back elbow
* Underhand reverse hammerfist

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Horizontal finger thrust
* Outward whip

KICKS
* Front snapping knife edge
* Front thrusting stomp
* Side thrusting stomp
* Back thrusting stomp
* Shuffle kicks (Drag/kick)

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Switch (F-B - B-F - I-P)
* Cover

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SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. CLUTCHING FEATHERS - (Front left hair grab)
2. TRIGGERED SALUTE - ( Front right hand direct push )
3. DANCE OF DEATH - ( Front right reverse punch )
4. THRUSTING SALUTE - ( Front right step through kick )
5. GIFT OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front handshake )
6. LOCKING HORNS - ( Front headlock )
7. EVADING THE STORM - ( Front right step through overhead club )
8. LONE KIMONO - ( front left hand lapel {palm up )
9. GLANCING SALUTE - ( Front right cross push )
10. FIVE SWORDS - ( Front right step through punch )
11. SCRAPING HOOF - ( Rear full nelson )
12. GRIP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
13. REPEATING MACE - ( Front left hand push )
14. SHIELDING HAMMER - ( Front left step through roundhouse punch )
15. STRIKING SERPENT'S HEAD - ( Front bear hug - arms free )
16. CRASHING WINGS - ( Rear bear hug arms free )

FORMS & SETS
LONG FORM # 1
KICKING SET # 1

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B1a 9. KB1a 17. B1aH 25. B1aHK
2. B1b 10. KB1b 18. B1bH 26. B1bHK
3. B2a 11. KB2a 19. B2aH 27. B2aHK
4. B2b 12. KB2b 20. B2bH 28. B2bHK
5. B3a 13. KB3a 21. B3aH 29. B3aHK
6 B3b 14. KB3b 22. B3bH 30. B3bHK
7. B4a 15. KB4a 23. B4aH 31. B4aHK
8. B4b 16. KB4b 24. B4bH 32. B4bHK


COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - o
2. d - o
3. u - o
4. i - u
5. rr - rl -ll - lr
6. innovate



ORANGE BELT LEG EXERCISES

1. Slow motion - Positioning
2. Slow motion - Kicking
3. Fast motion - Kicking
4. Fast motion - Vary levels
5. Innovate

Purple Belt

PURPLE PLEDGE & 9 SAYINGS

PURPLE PATCH DESCRIPTIONS

STANCES
* One Leg F/R
* Cat (90 degree)
* Front Twist
* Rear Twist

BLOCKS
* Push down
* Cross (upward)
* Universal

PARRIES
* Inside downward
* Outside downward

PUNCHES
* Roundhouse

STRIKES
* Inward horizontal forearm
* Outward horizontal forearm
* Inner diagonal wrist
* Underhand heel palm
* Inward horizontal heel palm
* Upward lifting back knuckle
* Downward elbow
* Inward overhead elbow
* Vertical thrusting back knuckle
* Vertical snapping back knuckle

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Vertical finger thrust
* Upward thrust
* Overhand whip
KICKS
* Front thrusting ball
* Front thrusting roundhouse
* Side thrusting knife edge
* Back thrusting heel
* Thrusting sweep

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Push drag
* Front crossover
* Rear crossover

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. TWIRLING WINGS - ( Rear 2 hand stiff arm shoulder grab)
2. SNAPPING TWIG - ( Front left hand chest push )
3. LEAPING CRANE - ( Front right step through punch )
4. BUCKLING BRANCH - ( Front left step through kick )
5. CRUSHING HAMMER- ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. CAPTURED LEAVES - ( Right flank finger lock )
7. CALMING THE STORM - ( Front right step through roundhouse club )
8. CROSSING TALON- ( front right cross wrist grab )
9. REVERSING MACE - ( Front left step through punch )
10. THRUSTING PRONGS - ( Front bear hug - arms pinned )
11. LOCKED WING - ( Rear right hammer lock )
12. OBSCURE WING - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )
13. RAINING CLAW - ( Front right uppercut punch )
14. SPIRALING TWIG - ( Rear bear hug - arms free )
15. TWISTED TWIG - ( Front wrist lock )
16. OBSCURE SWORD - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )

FORMS & SETS
SHORT FORM # 2
COORDINATION SET # 1
STANCE SET # 1
OWN FORM (5 TECHNIQUES)

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B5a 9. tsKrk 17. tsKB5aPbk 25. rKtsKB5a
2. B5b 10. rKtsk 18. tsKB5aPhk 26. rKtsKB5b
3. B5aP 11. B1atsKrK 19. tsKB5aPbkhK 27. rKtsKB5aP
4. B5bP 12. tsKrKB1a 20. tsKB5aPhKbk 28. rKtsKB5bP
5. B5aPbk 13. tsKB5a 21. rKtsK6bk 29. rKtsKB5aPbk
6 B5bPhK 14. tsKB5a 22. rKtsK6hK 30. rKtsKB5aPhK
7. B5aPbkhK 15. tsKB5b 23. rKtsK6bkhK 31. rKtsKB5aPbkhK
8. B5bPhKbk 16. tsKB5aP 24. rKtsK6hKbk 32. rKtsKB5aPhKbk


COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - p - o - p
2. d- p - o - p
3. u - p - o - p
4. i - p - u - p
5. rl - rl
6. lr - lr
7. rr - ll
8. innovate

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When do you guys sleep? LOL.
Just kidding!
;)
 

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Originally posted by Seig
Sleep?:confused: What's that?

Isn't that what people do after they die? Life is about living, not about sleeping ;)

Having said this, it's past my bedtime and I still gotta pack, then get up and drive a couple of hours in the morning.

Mike
 
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Good Luck .........:asian:



Chicago Green
Dragon :asian:
 
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Chu-Chulain

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FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B5a 9. tsKrk 17. tsKB5aPbk 25. rKtsKB5a
2. B5b 10. rKtsk 18. tsKB5aPhk 26. rKtsKB5b
3. B5aP 11. B1atsKrK 19. tsKB5aPbkhK 27. rKtsKB5aP
4. B5bP 12. tsKrKB1a 20. tsKB5aPhKbk 28. rKtsKB5bP
5. B5aPbk 13. tsKB5a 21. rKtsK6bk 29. rKtsKB5aPbk
6 B5bPhK 14. tsKB5a 22. rKtsK6hK 30. rKtsKB5aPhK
7. B5aPbkhK 15. tsKB5b 23. rKtsK6bkhK 31. rKtsKB5aPbkhK
8. B5bPhKbk 16. tsKB5aP 24. rKtsK6hKbk 32. rKtsKB5aPhKbk

COuld someone please explain this, especially the coding and how it is implemented?

Thanks...
 

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Originally posted by Chu-Chulain
FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

COuld someone please explain this, especially the coding and how it is implemented?Thanks...

You know this stuff takes time on the mat. Anyone can explain these but without proper mat time with the instructor some maybe hard to understand. :asian:
 
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KenpoGirl

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Originally posted by jfarnsworth
You know this stuff takes time on the mat. Anyone can explain these but without proper mat time with the instructor some maybe hard to understand. :asian:

Not all instructors teach the freestyle techniques.

Mine doesn't the only experience I have with it was the little bit Dennis taught me a while ago.

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Originally posted by KenpoGirl
Not all instructors teach the freestyle techniques.

They are just one of many a useful tool of motion to have. I believe a beginner should have these to get an idea on sparring combo's before they actually put the gloves on. The studio I attend doesn't either however I feel they are another aspect of kenpo to touch up on.:asian:
 
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Chu-Chulain

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Sorry, I don't think I made my question clear.

What do the actual codes indicate?

e.g. for

8. B5bPhKbk 16. tsKB5aP 24. rKtsK6hKbk 32. rKtsKB5aPhKbk

Is B - Block? what is 5?

What is significane of uppercase vs lower, etc.??

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B = Base move, (not necessarily a block)

B5bPhKbk

B for this particular technique, if my memory is not too faulty, is a left-to-left grab, pulling down and out (check height, width and depth

5 as you step through (with a possible tsk)

b and punch to the kidney or rib

P followed by a left punch to the head as the right hand supresses and check the opponent's left arm.

hK immediately flowing into and executing a right heel kick

bk followed by a right outward back knuckle strike as you plant your right foot.

This is just a taste of one of the freestyle basics. I teach them not just for freestyle sparring patterns, but more so to "close the gap" in the street once the conflict has initiated and you are dealing with a fighter who is not going to grab or cleanly execute a punch. They are nice to train to flow into various techniques and a good platform from which to explore variable expansion of actual self-defense techniques.

-Michael
 
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Chu-Chulain

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Interesting, they sound a lot like techniques.

What are the fundamental differences between a freestyle and a regular technique, is it just the style of attack??

Does anyone know where can I find out more details and examples of these?

Thanks
 

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Originally posted by Chu-Chulain
Interesting, they sound a lot like techniques.

What are the fundamental differences between a freestyle and a regular technique, is it just the style of attack??

Does anyone know where can I find out more details and examples of these?

Thanks

These are used in EPAK :) Though not all schools utilize the freestyle.. Mr. Conatser (Goldendragon7) is my instructor and he uses every one of them ~!!


I see you're a blue belt.. what Kenpo system do you train in?
 

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