Chuck Norris and TKD

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I would have to check but none of my WT(F) documents/certificates have anything to do with rank. They are for competitions/levels and tourney contributions.

Well that makes perfect sense. Because WT isn't an art. It's a sports governing body.

I think if the "honorary" BB were given to someone skilled who never officially studied the art, that would make sense.

If you say so, but to me... not so much. They don't know the art. I feel the same way about honorary doctorates and such. If it's not earned, it's silly. Just give them a Certificate of Appreciation or some such.
 

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If you say so, but to me... not so much. They don't know the art. I feel the same way about honorary doctorates and such. If it's not earned, it's silly. Just give them a Certificate of Appreciation or some such.

For the sake of brevity, I deleted part of my initial comment before posting.

If Harvard Business School gave Bill Gates an honorary MBA, I'd be hard pressed to disagree. Similarly, giving Chuck Norris an honorary BB in TKD, in the alternate scenario that he never tested for it, would seem perfectly fine to me.
 

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He's also an avid proponent of the Total Gym (commercial came on this morning) :p
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"A acuaintance of mine that is with Mr. Norris's organization. Say's, the kukkiwon has given him certification like clockwork for many year's".

No reflection on Mr. Norris intended here, but to me that stinks. How can the Kukkiwon justify awarding ranking to a non TKD practicioner? I can imagine that TKD practicioners that can't afford or find someone to sign off on their application for promotion would be kind of ticked off big time.

He IS a TKD practitioner. Is it so hard to google? "It was in the Air Force, while stationed in Korea, that Chuck was introduced to martial arts. In a statement from his publicist to 35th Air Defense Artillery Public Affairs, Chuck Norris confirmed that Grand Master Mun, the tireless Tae Kwon Do instructor at the Osan Gym, was one of his teachers many years ago"

Chuck also considered himself a student of both General Choi of ITF and Jhoon Rhee.
 

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He IS a TKD practitioner. Is it so hard to google? "It was in the Air Force, while stationed in Korea, that Chuck was introduced to martial arts. In a statement from his publicist to 35th Air Defense Artillery Public Affairs, Chuck Norris confirmed that Grand Master Mun, the tireless Tae Kwon Do instructor at the Osan Gym, was one of his teachers many years ago"

Chuck also considered himself a student of both General Choi of ITF and Jhoon Rhee.
While Norris has practiced and is belted in TKD and TSD he started his own style, Chun Kuk Do.
Kukkiwon has regularly awarded rank to higher ranking people of others styles if the conditions warrant it.
 

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Taekwondo. He learned the forms from Gen. Choi.
Sir, Please check on time line. GM Lee was a Chung Do Kwan Product. (Which was TSD) I believe he adopeted the Chang Hon patterns for a time after he came to the USA similar to Jhoon Rhee and He Il Cho.
 

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Sir, Please check on time line. GM Lee was a Chung Do Kwan Product. (Which was TSD) I believe he adopeted the Chang Hon patterns for a time after he came to the USA similar to Jhoon Rhee and He Il Cho.
My timeline is correct. GM Lee learned the forms from Gen. Choi. His handwritten notes are on display in the ATA museum. He taught the forms until 1983, when he started developing his own style (Songahm) and teaching the new forms.
 

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My timeline is correct. GM Lee learned the forms from Gen. Choi. His handwritten notes are on display in the ATA museum. He taught the forms until 1983, when he started developing his own style (Songahm) and teaching the new forms.
Sir, I am aware he learned the forms from General Choi and was part of the ITF for a time. I believe prior to learning the forms (Like Jhoon Rhee and He Il Cho) he was a Chung Do Kwan student.
 

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Okay. Thanks for documenting that what I said was correct.
Sir, Apparently we are not communicating. My question and point was that in Korea HU Lee was a CDK student and that is where Chuck Norris trained with him. The CDK was doing TSD not TKD. As per the linked information. It was not until HU Lee was in Omaha that he met and learned from General Choi learning those forms and like so many other CDK products switched to TKD. Or are you claiming that TSD and TKD are one and the same?
 
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