Can You Stand Still?

[Siunimtao]

Motionless is the secret, if you can lock on to a focal point you will obtain motionless while Standing your on the right track,

If you cant stand motionless I reccommend that you keep trying untill you even Start SNT,

hows your movement when in the stance, Do you feel motionless? if so how do you maintain it?

 

[rickster]

I am not quite sure what is this about.......

 

[mook jong man]

Motionless is the secret, if you can lock on to a focal point you will obtain motionless while Standing your on the right track,

If you cant stand motionless I reccommend that you keep trying untill you even Start SNT,

hows your movement when in the stance, Do you feel motionless? if so how do you maintain it?

I think your talking about "Standing Practice"
It's used so that you can concentrate on maintaining the "Tei Gong" internal contraction and work on straightening and expanding the vertebrae in your spine and finding your centre of balance.

Any problem regions where you carry tension can be isolated and targeted in standing practice , specifically thighs and shoulders , but other areas as well.
The end goal being that our back is straight and we are as relaxed as we can be in our Wing Chun stance.

When you say motionless while moving in your stance I think you may mean excessive upper body movement as you are stepping or kicking.
Things such as leaning before you move in , or shoulder movement when kicking.
Basically , it takes a lot of practice in front of a mirror by initiating your stepping from the waist while keeping your back straight.
Similarly with kicking , practice "leg raising" raise each leg alternatively while in your stance in front of the mirror.
Try to minimize any movement of the upper body as you raise the leg , specifically the shoulders.
Eventually you get to the stage where there is hardly any movement at all.

 

[Siunimtao]

Yes, Nothing to do with moving, SNT stance, Motionless Standing is very hard to obtain/maintain, Yes it involves Tei gong,
So can you Stand very very Still in your stance? if so what do you use? or how do you maintain it?

 

[mook jong man]

Yes, Nothing to do with moving, SNT stance, Motionless Standing is very hard to obtain/maintain, Yes it involves Tei gong,
So can you Stand very very Still in your stance? if so what do you use? or how do you maintain it?

Except for the slight internal contraction , you have to try and relax every part of your body.
Even when you think you are relaxed , try and relax some more.
Not only the muscles , but the actual joints themselves , the less friction around your joints the more powerful you will become.
When the spine is relaxed and straight it is called making the spine "Sing".
Mentally I am visualizing force flowing up my spine to the top of my head.

A lot of the fidgeting around that people do while doing the form or practicing standing is excess nervous energy , you just have to let all that go and try and sink down into your stance and relax as much as you can.
Recognising that you are tense in the first place and identifying the location is another difficulty.

 

[Tez3]

Except for the slight internal contraction , you have to try and relax every part of your body.
Even when you think you are relaxed , try and relax some more.
Not only the muscles , but the actual joints themselves , the less friction around your joints the more powerful you will become.
When the spine is relaxed and straight it is called making the spine "Sing".
Mentally I am visualizing force flowing up my spine to the top of my head.

A lot of the fidgeting around that people do while doing the form or practicing standing is excess nervous energy , you just have to let all that go and try and sink down into your stance and relax as much as you can.
Recognising that you are tense in the first place and identifying the location is another difficulty.

This sounds wonderful! is it something you can only be taught by WC practicioners or only do in WC?

 

[Siunimtao]

Except for the slight internal contraction , you have to try and relax every part of your body.
Even when you think you are relaxed , try and relax some more.
Not only the muscles , but the actual joints themselves , the less friction around your joints the more powerful you will become.
When the spine is relaxed and straight it is called making the spine "Sing".
Mentally I am visualizing force flowing up my spine to the top of my head.

A lot of the fidgeting around that people do while doing the form or practicing standing is excess nervous energy , you just have to let all that go and try and sink down into your stance and relax as much as you can.
Recognising that you are tense in the first place and identifying the location is another difficulty.

There shouldnt be any internal contractions, if there is its from Splinel alignment, once you have the spine straight you will be still as a post,
You have the right idea but i believe your missing the main concept,

 

[mograph]

This sounds wonderful! is it something you can only be taught by WC practicioners or only do in WC?

This actually sounds like Zhan Zhuang. It's the foundation of Yiquan practice but it's also applicable to any martial art, to answer your question.

 

[mook jong man]

There shouldnt be any internal contractions, if there is its from Splinel alignment, once you have the spine straight you will be still as a post,
You have the right idea but i believe your missing the main concept,

You do realize that "Tei gong" is the slight contraction of the anal sphincter don't you?
It locks the upper and lower body together and facilitates the concentration needed to develop "Nim Lik".

 

[mook jong man]

This sounds wonderful! is it something you can only be taught by WC practicioners or only do in WC?

Relaxed muscles are not unique to Wing Chun.
But the way they are used in circular structures to both generate and overcome force with support from the Wing Chun stance is unique.

Apart from relaxation of the muscles and joints , other crucial factors like angle of the arms and proper focusing of both physical and mental force play an important role.

An experienced instructor will be able to identify areas where you are carrying tension either just by looking at you or usually a quick touch on the shoulder , chest or front of the thigh.

 

[Xue Sheng]

So if I am reading this all correctly this is all about "Stance training" which is part of just about every CMA out there. And to be honest I tend to look at it the same way a Xingyi sifu of mine does. IF there is joint pain you need to adjust if it is muscle pain... I don't want to hear about it so just shut up and stand.

Basically it is rather common in CMA and not all that hard, it just takes time.

 

[wtxs]

There shouldnt be any internal contractions, if there is its from Splinel alignment, once you have the spine straight you will be still as a post,
You have the right idea but i believe your missing the main concept,

Please enlighten us old dogs.

 

[Siunimtao]

This actually sounds like Zhan Zhuang. It's the foundation of Yiquan practice but it's also applicable to any martial art, to answer your question.

Yes this is a key component to Chinese martial arts including Taai chi as well,

MJM

anal what? yes another key is the slight lift of this area, But it is only part or the picture, you can only get the spine straight with the use of mind force, and this component is unique to Wing Chun,


Im not about to Give up my findings from years of specialised SNT training, if you know you know, if you dont
your miles away from mastering SNT

WTXS

Concentrated Mind Force, Like that of the suns rays through a magnifing Glass,

 

[Xue Sheng]

It is a part of Xingyiquan, certain styles of Baguazhang and some styles of Taijiquan.

It is also part of Bajiquan and Changquan as well and multiple other styles of CMA

 

[Siunimtao]

It is a part of Xingyiquan, certain styles of Baguazhang and some styles of Taijiquan.

It is also part of Bajiquan and Changquan as well and multiple other styles of CMA

Then you could share the main Concept to obtaining Motionless in the stance?

 

[Xue Sheng]

Then you could share the main Concept to obtaining Motionless in the stance?

Already did post #11

 

[wtxs]

MJM

anal what? yes another key is the slight lift of this area, But it is only part or the picture, you can only get the spine straight with the use of mind force, and this component is unique to Wing Chun,


Im not about to Give up my findings from years of specialised SNT training, if you know you know, if you dont
your miles away from mastering SNT

WTXS

Concentrated Mind Force, Like that of the suns rays through a magnifing Glass,

Unique to WC? The concept had been around and practiced for ages, there is no new novel way to accomplish that goal. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Siunimtao]

Unique to WC? The concept had been around and practiced for ages, there is no new novel way to accomplish that goal. Thanks for sharing.

Yous are all missing the point, This is what seperates Wing Chun from Wing Chun Kung Fu, its Very unique to WC,

Quote- Others walk the plank, I walk the line, Ip Man

 

[blindsage]

I know but you don't, and I'm not gonna tell you. Neiner, neiner.

 

[Siunimtao]

I know but you don't, and I'm not gonna tell you. Neiner, neiner.

You obviously walk the plank,