anyone do chi transfer healing?

[jasonearle]

just curious if anyone has used this, maybe know nas Theraputic Touch to some, or by other terms as well. we use it in our art, at the more advanced level, so just wondering if anyone else teaches this kind of thing in thier art.

 

[NLMontana]

Therapeutic Touch is an outgrowth of Reiki. My understanding is that it was developed by an individual who decided they did not want to study the third degree Reiki Master level, which at the time was costing upwards of $10,000. Think of it as the JKD of touch therapies.

What an industry.

(There are other threads on the subject of Reiki to which I have replied, so I will not add yet another discourse here. You're welcome.)

If you are interested in further info, I would be happy to share with you, and not bore others on this thread. Feel free to shoot a PM my way.

Regards,
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[NLMontana]

My apologies -- I just read what I wrote and I sound extraordinarily cynical tonight. Mea culpa.

I do use "ch'i transfer" in everything that I do, including teaching. The system I teach is based upon three disciplines: Reiki, Tai-Chi and Kung Fu, and the alchemy that makes them the Shihando, Way of the Master. These healing systems have accelerated Universal Life Force -- Tai-Chi. They have altered the structure of energy. So all those martial artists who are working with ch'i or ki to empower their physical arts, are missing the boat if they are not working with ch'i or ki to empower the spiritual nature of their arts, as well.

The kata of all of the most traditional of martial arts are based upon a science of symbols, or calligraphies, found in the Sanksrit Sutras. If you have not learned this, then you are either still at the fighting stage of study, or your Master Teacher does not feel you are ready to receive this knowledge, or your Master Teacher does not know about it. These symbols are also found in Reiki. Additionally, there are symbols in Reiki, which was developed in the 1800's, that are in the martial arts forms, and which are not currently studied by most traditional martial artists. They need to get with the program, also.

So sorry again for being brusque. I did not intend any offense.

Thank you.
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[pete]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_Kool-Aid_Acid_Test

 

[pstarr]

A correction on Therapeutic Touch - it was NOT created by someone who didn't want to fork over the cash that Reiki classes demand. In fact, Tgerapeutic Touch was being taught to nurses long before Reiki came onto the scene.

Dr. Delores Kreiger was the founder of TT-

At my school, we practice a method very similar to TT, but it is Chinese in origin.

 

[jasonearle]

I had an experience with it where a friend of mine smashed his hand so it was all swollen and purple. I worked on him for about 15 min. or so without touching him of course. his hand was rested on a table, kind of cupped so the palm wasn't touching the table. he said he felt energy push is palm down so it was touching the table. after I finished, the swelling was down and the color had started to fade. if you have done this sort of "chi transfer" before then you know the kind of tingly warm feeling you get in your hands. this time was weird because my head was tingly as well. has anyone ever had any experience like that before?

 

[SFC JeffJ]

I'd like to be pointed towards the evidence of this.

Jeff

 

[SFC JeffJ]

My apologies -- I just read what I wrote and I sound extraordinarily cynical tonight. Mea culpa.

I do use "ch'i transfer" in everything that I do, including teaching. The system I teach is based upon three disciplines: Reiki, Tai-Chi and Kung Fu, and the alchemy that makes them the Shihando, Way of the Master. These healing systems have accelerated Universal Life Force -- Tai-Chi. They have altered the structure of energy. So all those martial artists who are working with ch'i or ki to empower their physical arts, are missing the boat if they are not working with ch'i or ki to empower the spiritual nature of their arts, as well.

The kata of all of the most traditional of martial arts are based upon a science of symbols, or calligraphies, found in the Sanksrit Sutras. If you have not learned this, then you are either still at the fighting stage of study, or your Master Teacher does not feel you are ready to receive this knowledge, or your Master Teacher does not know about it. These symbols are also found in Reiki. Additionally, there are symbols in Reiki, which was developed in the 1800's, that are in the martial arts forms, and which are not currently studied by most traditional martial artists. They need to get with the program, also.

So sorry again for being brusque. I did not intend any offense.

Thank you.
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Sorry bout that, this is what I was referring to. Especially the part about the forms of most TMAs being based on the sanskrit sutras.

Jeff

 

[Xue Sheng]

I'd like to be pointed towards the evidence of this.

Jeff

Sorry bout that, this is what I was referring to. Especially the part about the forms of most TMAs being based on the sanskrit sutras.

Jeff

Me too.

Actually Internal CMA (Xingyi, Bagua, Tai Chi, and Liu He Ba Fa) which are also considered TMA are based on either the 5 elements and/or the trigrams which all come from Taoism which are indigenous to China.

But this has nothing to do with the original post about "anyone do chi transfer healing."

 

[ech33]

well, i do have some experience in terms of chi healing but not as what u had now. the method is basically the same, but the effect take times to heal fast. normally it takes a while to heal. your head was tingling, it`s possible because of the over-exert in doing chi healing...

 

[haroonkhan345]

just curious if anyone has used this, maybe know nas Theraputic Touch to some, or by other terms as well. we use it in our art, at the more advanced level, so just wondering if anyone else teaches this kind of thing in thier art.

Yes, I’m familiar with what you’re referring to—whether it's called Therapeutic Touch, energy work, or something else, it's definitely something that shows up in various traditional arts, often at the deeper or more advanced levels. In my own experience, reiki training has been a really valuable foundation for understanding and working with subtle energy, both for personal healing and in the context of martial arts.


What’s interesting is how principles from Reiki—like intention, breath control, and quiet presence—can enhance sensitivity, awareness, and even how we connect during partner work or internal practices. It’s not always something that's openly discussed in martial arts circles, but it’s definitely there beneath the surface in a lot of traditional systems.


Curious to hear how it’s integrated into your art—do you use it more for recovery and healing, or does it show up in combative or sensitivity drills as well?

 

[windwalker099]

Curious to hear how it’s integrated into your art—do you use it more for recovery and healing, or does it show up in combative or sensitivity drills as well?

Not so much integrated — more like based on it.

My teacher was known for what’s called Volley Jin (凌空劲) — a method he also used for healing, not just in martial contexts. There are quite a few studies on this in China.

Years ago, I visited Master Lin in Taiwan. He graciously demonstrated his version of 凌空劲, using his students to illustrate ideas clearly and calmly — no theatrics, just method.

While it’s often translated as Kōng Jìn (空劲, “Empty Force”), that translation can be misleading. It’s neither truly a “force,” nor is it “empty” in the way many assume. The term carries a theoretical and historical context that gets lost when translated without experience.

Note: I’m not here to validate or promote this — it’s controversial, even among practitioners. Just sharing personal experience.

I looked into bodywork years ago — trigger point and massage therapy — but never pursued it formally.
Still, I use it when working w

ith students or others in pain, results are often immediate.

My method is simple: I use qi directly to release the trigger point rather than manipulate it. Hard to explain technically — it’s something you do and feel.

TCM offers some framework for why it works: where qi stagnates, pain tends to follow.