Chris Parker
Grandmaster
Re-read the thread, Angel. Seriously. Then tell me I don't see your side, and I'm the one not listening.
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It's obvious who you agree with... but I did not begin any such discussion about training to kill... in fact, I stated that I know nobody who does so, when that point first came up. As far as what I think he's thinking at this point - I don't have a crystal ball, so I have no clue. Do you?I think the Main Issue is that Angel, as ive gathered Champ-Pain is called; Is Argueing a Point. Chris Parker is Debating that Point with a Valid Counterpoint, in answer to statements by Angel.
Im not going to say any more than that, but this is a Classic Case of Two People Discussing something, but with different Pretexts. And therefore coming across as Critical to one anothers Views to the other.
I mean, feel free to go back to... Page 10, I think? When Angel begun the Discussion regarding Training to Kill. Which was carried on, which was carried on.
But I am going to say ONE thing.
In fact, feel free to disregard all but the following:
"He's not listening to me and won't give an inch..."
And what do You think Hes thinking at this point?
It's obvious who you agree with... but I did not begin any such discussion about training to kill... in fact, I stated that I know nobody who does so, when that point first came up. As far as what I think he's thinking at this point - I don't have a crystal ball, so I have no clue. Do you?
Well, Yes.
But I dont allow who I agree with cloud my ciew of the overall discussion.
Im pretty sure He mentioned it, then You discussed it. That could be debated both ways;
I dont have a Crystal Ball - I can Deduce things however
Well, Yes.
But I dont allow who I agree with cloud my ciew of the overall discussion.
Im pretty sure He mentioned it, then You discussed it. That could be debated both ways;
I dont have a Crystal Ball - I can Deduce things however
In terms of who began the conversation of training to kill, it could be said that Angel did, by asking the question in the first place (as to why winning would be irrelevant), as it was specifically in answer to that. The first reference, though, was actually Sukerkin, implicit on page 3, followed by myself, rather more explicitly as a way of explaining the mindset difference between sport arts and what I do, on page 7. Since then it was taken out of context, applied incorrectly, and misunderstood, so I sought to rectify that. Didn't work, but I feel that has more to do with the receiver than the message.
Crystal balls are a liability in sparring and fighting.
Duly Noted - See, I wouldnt have Re-Read that much to find out
Not if you use it as a weapon and hit your opponent on the head with it. Oh, I see - you mean liability for the other guy.Crystal balls are a liability in sparring and fighting.
Training with swords, spears and the lot is still vauable.
So is training with firearms - the most lethal of the Martial Arts weapons we speak about, and easier to carry around, as well... but, to each his own.
I don't agree with everything you've posted here - but you make some very good points and observations... and expressed yourself beautifully.In sports, winning is a number ... a score derived from the opinions of judges ... judges who each have his/her own priorities in their fields. It is the luck of the draw - the slip of the jab - the millimeter needed to strike far enough. It is the luck of the match of honed skill.
Victory is, like good alcohol, easy to appreciate, soothing, warming ... and oh-so-very intoxicating. Often it is very unrealistic.
Good sportsmen - especially in this field - need to impart the ability to accept all, to keep humility in a jar rather than self-praise, and to drink of this tonic *often* - for it is by FAR the more practical lesson.
Celebrate your victories - but remember - they are very temporary and tend to incite the hunger of others.
Training with swords, spears and the lot is still vauable.
So is training with firearms - the most lethal of the Martial Arts weapons we speak about, and easier to carry around, as well... but, to each his own.
Thats debatable - A Needle, if inserted directly into an Artery, is more than likely going to Kill.
A Bullet to the Head has been known on many occasions to be Unsuccessful.
So Yes.
To Each His Own.
Thats debatable - A Needle, if inserted directly into an Artery, is more than likely going to Kill.