I didn't say that, you did. You're the one who said them fighting like a kickboxer is the abandoning of technique. None of that looks any different than western wrestling or boxing except that last foot stomp to the head. Muay Thai incorporates western boxing. One of the top MT fighters in history was also an Olympic boxer. But anyway we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, feel free to have the last word on this.