If BJJ is so effective, why isn't everybody doing it?

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  1. Anarax

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    Unfortunately you can't. You don't always have time to react/block every strike thus they're not "safe". The tap ends the submission before it's completed, the striking technique is already completed at the moment of contact.
     
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    The submission happens at the point of risk of damage. Sometimes the submission is completed sometimes it isn't.

    If the tap is late then the limb can be damaged. You don't have time to react to every submission.

    And as a side note one of our guys recently needed 6 stitches in his head from jujitsu.

    Today I had to collapse off a sprawl because I was about to break someone's neck when he turned the wrong way.
     
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    Not necessarily, you don't wait until you feel your body weight drop during a choke to tap nor should you wait to tap until you feel the onset of soft tissue damage. Listening to your body is important in all martial arts training.

    Exactly, if the tap is late, meaning they could of tapped sooner to prevent injury. Knowing when to tap is very important which is overlooked in some BJJ schools.

    That's very uncommon in BJJ, fringe injuries occur in all disciplines. I had a friend tear and dislocate his shoulder in Aikido, but that's far from common in Aikido.
    I've had someone try to check my leg kicks incorrectly and they injured themselves in the process. Meaning sometimes people put themselves in horrible positions that will inherently make sparring more dangerous for themselves. However, that doesn't make the training itself dangerous, it's the training partner making the situation needlessly more dangerous.
     
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    Spoke to a girl today who broke another girls arm in competition. And basically did it on purpose. Gave her no time to tap.
     
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    During the old day, there would be axe gang fight after that competition.

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    I need to rewatch that movie. It was a lot of fun.
     
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    great kick when you need to kick an NBA player in his jaw.
     
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    easy fix. find a bjj school in Alaska that has poor heating.
     
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    That depends on which kata.
    I know some brutal two man kata that are pretty short, but if you did them for two hours you wouldn't be walking the next day from the wear and tear.
     
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    two hours of that drumming would make me weaklegged too.
     
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    I can't speak too much on that for I didn't see the nature of how the submission was applied. However, we've been talking about training dynamics, not competition. Training and competition have two different goals.
     
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    I know lots of people who have knocked out their opponents in competition. Basically did it on purpose. Didn't hold back at all.
     
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    And crippled the guy?
     
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    Like a double leg over but locked it off with a figure four. So by the time it is on it is broken.
     
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    I broke a guys radius and ulna with a spinning hook kick.
    Broke arm does not equal crippled, in the vast majority of cases.
    Countless people with concussions, and we all know how life changing those can be.
     
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    There's a different of intent between training and competing. That kind of behavior/intent wouldn't be tolerated in most dojos.
     

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