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I don't think most martial artists get the physical exercise part right.

Which has to make you wonder, why some people put so much effort into obtaining colored belts, and can't fight their way out of a paper bag.

I'd recommend Yoga or Pilates to somebody before I'd ever recommend an Asian fighting art. Maybe Qigong if they were ready.

Why do you think that is?
When I see koroddy masters on youtube, in coloured keikogi covered in patches and red and white belts, they are invariably obese and look as though a 60 second free-spar would cause cardiac arrest (I have a mental image of that Dilman character with his enormous belly!). It does seem strange that a predominantly physical art is peppered with such unfit practitioners. Is this the case in sports?
 

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Im just playing because some people think that as great as Cus DAmato was, he could turn anyone into Tyson with the right system. I just think thats a lot of hooey. Same with BJJ MMA TMA etc. All the ingredients count in a recipe. Garbage in, garbage out. Good healthy, hard working, guy with a good coach and a legit training method over a period of time can make a skilled fighter. Remove any one of those elements and the chances of a skilled fighter being the product goes down. Not everything can be taught.
It's not a binary thing. Of course not everyone can be a Tyson. Not everyone can be one of the best in the world at whatever activity they participate in, even with the best coaches and the best system.

But anyone who is willing to put in hard work with a good coach can get to be a lot better than they would have been without doing that effort. In fact, they can usually get to be significantly better than much more naturally talented people who haven't done that training.
 

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I'm not an elder goth but I have been at it awhile, and frankly this stuff generally only appeals to a younger crowd. The rest of us got our gear at local shops and Salvation Armani, military surplus stores lol.
 

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I'm not an elder goth but I have been at it awhile, and frankly this stuff generally only appeals to a younger crowd. The rest of us got our gear at local shops and Salvation Armani, military surplus stores lol.
when i was about 14 i had my hair spiked up with vaseline..haha didn織t have any fancy gels or at least have money for it. It織s probably why i織m half bald now ..just shave it with an electric razor now :)
 

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when i was about 14 i had my hair spiked up with vaseline..haha didn織t have any fancy gels or at least have money for it. It織s probably why i織m half bald now ..just shave it with an electric razor now :)
I never had super long hair but I've kept it pretty short for the last 20 plus years. Gets to be an inch long and it bothers me. Guess I'll never have those flowing locks you see in the movies. lol
 

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I never had super long hair but I've kept it pretty short for the last 20 plus years. Gets to be an inch long and it bothers me. Guess I'll never have those flowing locks you see in the movies. lol
i had hair like Elvis until i was about 34. Don織t care as i織ve had women say my head is nice shaped & suits it. find it sexy. you know they love a man織s man. A raging Bull :D
 

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I said skills, but really meant more like traits... things like respect, resilience, honor, integrity, etc.
Oh, thats stuff their parents should have taught.
. I teach Gung fu to adults interested in training hard. If respect and integrity are things they are striving to learn as adults, then Im not the right teacher for them.
 

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I don't think most martial artists get the physical exercise part right.

Which has to make you wonder, why some people put so much effort into obtaining colored belts, and can't fight their way out of a paper bag.

I'd recommend Yoga or Pilates to somebody before I'd ever recommend an Asian fighting art. Maybe Qigong if they were ready.

Why do you think that is?
I agree, most of the TMA I have seen around here is lacking any real exercise in the training. Soft and collapsed. I can walk through most of them with little effort. They have no shame.
 

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It's not a binary thing. Of course not everyone can be a Tyson. Not everyone can be one of the best in the world at whatever activity they participate in, even with the best coaches and the best system.

But anyone who is willing to put in hard work with a good coach can get to be a lot better than they would have been without doing that effort. In fact, they can usually get to be significantly better than much more naturally talented people who haven't done that training.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
It's not a binary thing. Of course not everyone can be a Tyson. Not everyone can be one of the best in the world at whatever activity they participate in, even with the best coaches and the best system.

But anyone who is willing to put in hard work with a good coach can get to be a lot better than they would have been without doing that effort. In fact, they can usually get to be significantly better than much more naturally talented people who haven't done that training.
Im a perfect example, Im not as naturally gifted as some of my training brothers but I work harder than all of them. I dont know as many forms as they do but Im a far more capable fighter than most of them.
 

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when i was about 14 i had my hair spiked up with vaseline..haha didn織t have any fancy gels or at least have money for it. It織s probably why i織m half bald now ..just shave it with an electric razor now :)
Vaseline? Gross. I used Knox unflavored gelatin to put my Mohawk or liberty spikes up in the 80s. They didnt have blue hair dye then, I used blue stamp pad ink.
 

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Oh, thats stuff their parents should have taught.
. I teach Gung fu to adults interested in training hard. If respect and integrity are things they are striving to learn as adults, then Im not the right teacher for them.
Yes, I think this is the parents and school teachers place.
 

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i remember listening to the first song Tank. "Drive my very own Tank & shoot an SLR" little did i know in a short time i would..

 

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I don't think most martial artists get the physical exercise part right.

Which has to make you wonder, why some people put so much effort into obtaining colored belts, and can't fight their way out of a paper bag.

I'd recommend Yoga or Pilates to somebody before I'd ever recommend an Asian fighting art. Maybe Qigong if they were ready.

Why do you think that is?
Any vigorous physical activity is exercise. And the working toward goals is an important thing for some folks, regardless of the goal, itself.

You just seem to want to complain in the most general terms, without any real basis for discussion.
 

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When I see koroddy masters on youtube, in coloured keikogi covered in patches and red and white belts, they are invariably obese and look as though a 60 second free-spar would cause cardiac arrest (I have a mental image of that Dilman character with his enormous belly!). It does seem strange that a predominantly physical art is peppered with such unfit practitioners. Is this the case in sports?
Beyond a certain age, it gets progressively harder to maintain a slim figure for some folks. That has little to do with whether they can teach.
 
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