- Aug 15, 2006
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- Seattle, WA
This is of course a reference to the fact that since "Gay Marriage" first became a political issue in the US, despite the ramblings of loonitics abouts Haiti and tsunami's being signs of some cross eyed god with bad aim's displeasure, God has yet to actually show up and say anything on the topic. The fact that numerous countries and states have legalized it and the world hasn't ended.and we move closer to the Armageddon, a world where people are equal and allowed to love and live regardless of obsolete dogma imposed feltercarb. I predict gay nazi's will ride dinosaurs out of Mt. Ranier and Mt. St. Helens as "God" shows his displeasure. Of course, if said gay nazi's fail to appear, I'd guess the 'Almighty' falls more in the 'couldn't care less' area on the topic. If He does, if he's really, really, really anti-gay, I demand he kill me right now. Right now!!!!!! Smite Me! Smite Me! Try not to take out Fresno though deadeye.
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I hope it's clear that I was posting tongue in cheek. If not, I'll say it outright: "I was posting tongue in cheek."
I just didn't think that this thread merited an entire rehash of our positions on the subject. I thought we'd all thoroughly vetted the matter and were pretty comfortable with where everyone stood on the issues.
In the event that I'm wrong, my position in brief is that I think the government should largely recuse itself from the marriage issue beyond, perhaps recording the event for next of kin purposes. As a result, if a person wants to marry another person, gender doesn't really matter to me and I will likely vote in favor of gay marriage in November.
LOL, Heard the bride ehh groom errr occupier on the radio talking about her gay marriage to the warehouse. Glad that they were able to find someone to marry them. The warehouse was able to say yes to the vows by other occupiers holding up a yes sign and at no time during the ceremony did they ask if anyone objects. It is important that people be allowed to be happy and marry whoever or whatever they love and anybody that laughs or objects is bigoted, ignorant and bad.
Washington State already has extremely liberal civil union/domestic partner laws on the books. As I understand it, currently there is no difference in states benefits or rights between those in a civil union and those married, other than civil unions are performed at courthouses and some churches but not all churches. As I see this, this is a political fight being in order to rally lagging support in a blue state by a lame duck governor whose leadership has been very weak during her entire term. I see this as a freedom of religion fight not a gay rights fight.
One aspect that I do find interesting regards the Referendum 71 fight. Washington State has a referendum process where by some laws passed by the houses and signed into law by the governor can be challenged by letting the people vote. The petition has to be signed by a certain large percentage of the population, the signatures have to verified by the state and this all has to happen in a very short amount of time. It is a complicated and difficult system. There have not been that many times in our states history that this has been used either successfully or unsuccessfully. The state passed and signed into law the domestic partners law and it was challenged in what became referendum 71. The referendum failed and the law stands. That was not enough for some groups of gay activists. They then sued to have the names and addresses of those citizens that signed referendum 71 made public. After much back and forth the judge agreed with them and now for the first time in our states history the names and addresses of people that sign a petition are public record. Despite the fact that some gay activist groups had stated that they will be using the lists of names to protest and boycott those names that are associated with businesses and business leaders, despite that those same groups saying that they want to use the list of petition names and addresses to target educational contacts with private citizens. I am sure that this lawsuit was not intended to silence or intimidate future opposition to the gay lobby and I am equally sure that the upcoming political discourse will be civil, fair, and peaceful and that the shouting and trying to circumvent or silence opposition seen in the past will be a thing of the past. LOL
While I do not understand the desire to marry a warehouse, nor do I understand what makes this marriage gay, it is their life and their terms so whatever, anyway glad the warehouse and the activist were allowed to complete their 'gay marriage'. I hope that they both live a long and happy life...except that the warehouse has already been partially demolished and scheduled for further demolition to make way for an apartment complex. Will that make her widow or will the marriage morph from warehouse to apartment complex? if it morphs to the apartment complex will that mean that she is also married to the people that will be living there? What about the pets that will be living there- will they also now be married? Oh well, the bride has the right, she is in love and no-one has the right to consider that abnormal or stand in her way.
Rolling my eyes at the politics and hysterics but seeing the danger that some are putting the system into in order to advance their agenda's. They are being shortsighted in my opinion but no matter...it is interesting and will lead to interesting times.
I thought I posted on this last night (or very early this morning.) To reprise:
And I am looking forward to seeing how many wedding invites we get this year, I sort of thought my wife and I were past that stage where you have to hit multiple weddings annually.
This is likely to be sent to the voters as a referendum in November. While it will be signed by Governor Gregoire, the opponents of the bill will have no problem at all getting sufficient signatures to put this on a ballot for the voters to decide. In other words, this was a major victory, but it's not over yet.