Stun "Guns" Illegal?
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HKphooey
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I think one should be fully trained before using a stun gun on someone. Most LEO are rquired to attend training and to take a few shots of their own before being issued one.
The other thing to keep in mind, stun guys are being used by criminals to subdue/knockout their victims. I know there is the same argument for guns. Maybe the stun guns just need some type of permit or training like guns.
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The other thing to keep in mind, stun guys are being used by criminals to subdue/knockout their victims. I know there is the same argument for guns. Maybe the stun guns just need some type of permit or training like guns.
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OUMoose
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However, the level of force and/or precision needed for a strike is much higher than pushing a small button and touching someone's arm.Carol Kaur said:
Personally, I think it's silly to say someone can't carry one. That said, though, stunners are an equalizer, and should be treated as such if used in a situation (i'd say their lethality is about the same a stick/rock).
Adept
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pstarr said:
But given that the state in question is a 'shall issue' state, the government is effectively saying; "We don't want you to use a stun gun on people. We want you to shoot them instead."
It's legal to carry and use a handgun in self defense, but not a stun-gun? I can't see how that makes sense.
Frankly, the issue doesn't really concern me. Both Airhorns and Pepper spray are considered prohibited illegal weapons here in Australia, because ostensibly they are 'purely offensive in nature'.
No, you still be in deep poopoo if you shot somebody who was not threatening you with deadly force...
The thing is, most people would happily use a stun gun against less-than-lethal attacks. That's really what they're for. BUT if the victim has any kind of a heart condition (including simple high blood pressure) the effects could possibly be fatal.
People are not as likely to use a firearm against a less-than-lethal attack because the handgun is universally recognized as a lethal weapon. The stun gun isn't, and that's why people are more likely to use them when they shouldn't...
The thing is, most people would happily use a stun gun against less-than-lethal attacks. That's really what they're for. BUT if the victim has any kind of a heart condition (including simple high blood pressure) the effects could possibly be fatal.
People are not as likely to use a firearm against a less-than-lethal attack because the handgun is universally recognized as a lethal weapon. The stun gun isn't, and that's why people are more likely to use them when they shouldn't...
CuongNhuka
Senior Master
I've seen and heard of people useing them to assault people, and even try (in vain) to use them to break open a cash register. So, I sorta see why. but, I think the vast majority of people that have them a women useing them to avoid being accausted.
And it is possible to use them to kill someone. Around here in good old Nebraska the police have considered to discontinue there use. Why? They accidently killed a suspect when they put the prongs on opposint ends of his spine. They were justified in useing them (he was on the ground but managed to still beat the you know what out of a few cops). There was a bit of public out cry, but in the end they cops came up a list of places they are not allowed to use them. Spine area, heart, kidneys, any area that has any thing that would conduct electricity (i.e. a pool of water).
And it is possible to use them to kill someone. Around here in good old Nebraska the police have considered to discontinue there use. Why? They accidently killed a suspect when they put the prongs on opposint ends of his spine. They were justified in useing them (he was on the ground but managed to still beat the you know what out of a few cops). There was a bit of public out cry, but in the end they cops came up a list of places they are not allowed to use them. Spine area, heart, kidneys, any area that has any thing that would conduct electricity (i.e. a pool of water).
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