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- Mar 5, 2005
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upnorthkyosa said:Is Miyama Ryu comparable to Dan Zan Ryu? What specifically characterizes Miyama Ryu?
I should say first off that all opinions offered are my own, and your mileage will vary-I'm not the authority on Miyama ryu.
I don't have a lot of familiarity with danzan-ryu, and what I do have is chiefly through brief contact with Small-circle jujutsu people. However, they both use some of the judo gokkyo no waza, and that's one similarity.
jujutsu_indonesia said:Danzan-ryu is like old Judo, like Judo as done before WWII. Much of the techniques of Judo is there but done differently and reflects the older Jujutsu systems.
Miyama is much more modern and very street-smart, very effective and to the point.
Interestingly, I've often described Miyama-ryu as like "old-time judo," "pre-WWII judo, " or what used to be called "dirty judo." You're right though, Miyama-ryu kata are geared towards western street crime, and this is one chief characterization, along with a more "rough and tumble" method of practice than other styles of jujutsu.
Ths syllabus through 1st kyu is available on the website, as well as several other Miyama-ryu school's webpages, and there are some differences in practice from teacher to teacher, depending upon when and by whom they were trained, and what other training they've had.
Some practitioners are learning/practicing sosuishitsu ryu kata, and some are learning SMR jo. Some have moved on to other arts, or have done other arts all along, so there is some variation, regionally and personally. Being one of the few practitioners west of the Mississipi, I've had fairly limited contact with my extended Miyama ryu family and I have Jim McCoy to thank for getting us back in touch.......ironically.